# Ken Ham blames "Ark Encounter" failure on atheists

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [June 21, 2017, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575 "2017-06-21T23:28:08Z")\
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**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/81 "2017-06-22T18:09:15Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> “That just raises further questions!”

You are technically correct, the best kind of correct!

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**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/82 "2017-06-22T18:26:51Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> And $40 for a ticket, really?

And therein lay his failure  
the Lord God charges nothing that the poorest creature on the planet could not pay.

Dumb dumb here tried to upstage God at 40 bucks a head, for God’s own product no less, so he bitch slapped him.

But hey, if he is giving away free blame, could i get an honorable mention?? 😃

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**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/83 "2017-06-22T18:33:20Z")

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I plan on passing through the area next year–if it’s still open I’ll probably check it out. $50 is a lot, but seeing places like that is one of the main reasons I go on road trips. The value to me is the story I can tell afterwards.

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**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/84 "2017-06-22T18:36:18Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> Just to differentiate yourselves, I’d suggest a prayer _[prolate cyclogon](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclogon)._

I just assumed he was kidding, because, as an atheist, it broke my brain to think of an atheist group having a prayer circle. What would you pray _to_?

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**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/85 "2017-06-22T18:54:48Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> Poor guy, suffering the Curse of Ham.

Could that Curse be broken, or perhaps cured? That’s it; what if someone could cure Ham?

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**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/86 "2017-06-22T19:03:42Z")

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Maybe Ken Ham should try opening a [Sharia Law theme park](http://www.billionbibles.org/sharia/sharia-law.html). 😃

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**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/87 "2017-06-22T19:03:52Z")

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I’m sure you could plenty of volunteers to skin him and hold him under salt water for 10 days or so.

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**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/88 "2017-06-22T19:13:04Z")

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> [@begbert2](#):
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> I just assumed he was kidding, because, as an atheist, it broke my brain to think of an atheist group having a prayer circle. What would you pray _to_?

We pray to Pascal, and we attempt to summon satin.

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**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/89 "2017-06-22T19:40:10Z")

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> [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](#):
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> Careful, you may be on the menu.

That’s the whole point, Man! 😃

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**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/90 "2017-06-22T19:55:26Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> We pray to Pascal, and we attempt to summon satin.

I pray in BASIC. The goal is GOTO Heaven.

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**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/91 "2017-06-22T21:28:46Z")

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> [@dtilque](#):
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> Maybe he should have brought in Shem and Japheth as partners…

And built it in Arkansas. C’mon, it’s right there in the name!

“Paging Mr. Japheth; you have a call from Ken Ham on line five and the Mayo Clinic wants to speak with you.”

“Give me Ham on five and hold the Mayo!”

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**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/92 "2017-06-22T21:34:24Z")

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> [@Machine\_Elf](#):
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> I think it would be really cool if it shuts down _because_ of a huge flood in the area.

Your idea is better.

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**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/93 "2017-06-22T21:38:30Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> I pray in BASIC. The goal is GOTO Heaven.

I try to be so exceptional I can never get caught, so when I get thrown, I’m thrown all the way up.

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**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/94 "2017-06-22T21:39:13Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> Read [this](https://thimblerigsark.wordpress.com/2016/07/19/my-review-of-ken-hams-ark-encounter-theme-park/) report I posted up-thread, plus [this](https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2017/06/16/the-ark-encounter-wood-plus-animal-noises/#more-34927) one and [this](https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2017/06/19/is-the-ark-encounter-economically-viable/) one and [this](http://www.gq.com/story/inside-ark-encounter-theme-park) one and especially [this](https://ncse.com/library-resource/kentucky-gets-ark-shaped-second-creation-museum) one. You can also look at reports on Ham’s other Hammy sermon [here](http://whatever.scalzi.com/2007/11/12/your-creation-museum-report/) and [here](http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2009/08/10/the-creation-museum-1/) and [here](https://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/things-i-learned-at-the-creation-museum?utm_term=.xpdeQq0yA#.gxRAM3Gkx) and [here](http://www.debunking-christianity.com/2013/08/an-atheist-visits-creation-museum-in.html).

Couldn’t you just have said there aren’t any real animals?

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**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/95 "2017-06-22T22:30:33Z")

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> [@begbert2](#):
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> I just assumed he was kidding, because, as an atheist, it broke my brain to think of an atheist group having a prayer circle. What would you pray _to_?

As a Lutheran Assistant \*(to the) \*Minister, I’m not ashamed to admit that the atheists would get as many “answers to prayer” as we would. The meditation-like benefits would work for any belief system.

Orrr, maybe we’re taking this too seriously, and it was a Sanctified Woosh.

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**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/96 "2017-06-22T22:50:10Z")

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Can we send Ham back to Australia in a wooden boat?

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**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/97 "2017-06-22T22:56:27Z")

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> [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#):
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> That said, i can’t see it being a long-term success. It’s about equi-distant from Lexington, Louisville and Cincinnatti, but getting there beyond that takes some effort. Plus, it strikes me as a “one-time” visit, a place you see once because, well. you’re supposed too because everybody’s talking about it, but once seen, there is no particular reason to go back. And I think after the first year or so, Ham is going (or already has) begun to run out of those ‘one-timers’, which is why he’s talking about adding more stuff to the Park (with undoubtedly additional tax breaks included)…after all, Cedar Point (alluded to above) adds new rollercoasters every couple of years…

Make it like the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame; every year a panel of experts inducts five new animals.

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**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/98 "2017-06-22T23:15:25Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> 40% of _Americans_ [are](http://www.gallup.com/poll/170822/believe-creationist-view-human-origins.aspx) Young Earth Creationists however; that’s more than enough for someone like this to convince himself it’s the norm among Christians.
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> It’s more likely that it’s just because floods are a fairly common disaster. Ancient humans were too spread out for a _single_ flood to even reach them all at once.

Wow. If that hadn’t been a Gallup poll I would have sworn it was an Onion article.

> [@ssgenius](#):
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> 1. If it goes bankrupt, what do you do with it?. Repossess it?, Auction it off, Use it as a container ship to replace the Crystal ? 😃

I’ve already claimed it for a seafood restaurant. See post #19

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**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/99 "2017-06-22T23:20:19Z")

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> [@snfaulkner](#):
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> Well, \*I \* say it a lot. The wife doesn’t get it tho, sadly.

> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> “That just raises further questions!”
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> We have entire conversations in Futurama quotes. It’s great until we do it in front of other people and they’re all 😕

I’d assumed it was from the Simpsons “Lord of the Flies” episode where judge bart allowes the attacking of witness milhouse on the stand.

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**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/100 "2017-06-22T23:22:29Z")

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> [@ssgenius](#):
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> 1. 100 million dollars for it?:eek:
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> 2. A much as Ken Ham is despised, I will give him credit for managing to get built a 500 ft long boat in the middle of Kentucky!
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> 3. If it goes bankrupt, what do you do with it?. Repossess it?, Auction it off, Use it as a container ship to replace the Crystal ? 😃

Put wheels on it and become a land pirate.

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