# Ken Ham blames "Ark Encounter" failure on atheists

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [June 21, 2017, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575 "2017-06-21T23:28:08Z")\
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**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/101 "2017-06-22T23:30:37Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> I’d assumed it was from the Simpsons “Lord of the Flies” episode where judge bart allowes the attacking of witness milhouse on the stand.

If you followed my link, it shows I meant futurama. But yeah, there is much simpsoning in my life as well.

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/102 "2017-06-23T00:23:02Z")

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> [@Projammer](#):
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> Wow. If that hadn’t been a Gallup poll I would have sworn it was an Onion article.

The methodology is [probably flawed](http://www.skepticblog.org/2014/05/28/how-many-real-creationists-are-there/), perhaps to an error rate of 4x.

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> I’d assumed it was from the Simpsons “Lord of the Flies” episode where judge bart allowes the attacking of witness milhouse on the stand.

It was Futurama, but it was something equally silly. I believe Leela was on the jury and allowed to testify.

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> It was Futurama, but it was something equally silly. I believe Leela was on the jury and allowed to testify.

[This](https://morbotron.com/meme/S02E06/368089.jpg?b64lines=WU9VUiBIT05PUiwgSSBLTk9XIFRIRQpDQVNFIElTIENMT1NFRCBBTkQgWU9VJ1ZFClJFTkRFUkVEIFlPVVIgVkVSRElDVCAKQlVUIEkgV0FOVCBUTyBURVNUSUZZLg==)

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/105 "2017-06-23T00:46:17Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Put wheels on it and become a land pirate.

What? You mean like the [Crimson Permanent Assurance](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Crimson_Permanent_Assurance)?

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/106 "2017-06-23T00:52:09Z")

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Sorry guys, I’m really not enjoying this story ark.

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/107 "2017-06-23T01:23:31Z")

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Its not even a boat, though. It’s just the front side of building that looks like a boat. The reverse side is just a rectangular building. And why was it built with a bulbous bow, and a curved hull? Those things are for speed and fuel efficiency…if it was made for a worldwide flood it just had to float, not actually go anywhere, and how would it be powered anyway?

A fool’s construction for foolish religion.

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/108 "2017-06-23T01:39:49Z")

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> [@Lightlystarched](#):
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> … how would it be powered anyway?

The aquatic animals (fish, otters, whales, seals) could jump in the water and push while the birds hung onto the hull and flapped their wings in unison.

And everyone else could row.

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> It was Futurama, but it was something equally silly. I believe Leela was on the jury and allowed to testify.

Should I be happy or sad that I immediately recognized it as Hermes questioning the logic of Zoidberg burning down his shell on the outskirts of the lost city of Atlanta?

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/110 "2017-06-23T02:13:59Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> Should I be happy or sad that I immediately recognized it as Hermes questioning the logic of Zoidberg burning down his shell on the outskirts of the lost city of Atlanta?

I would say happy. My wife would say sad.

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/111 "2017-06-23T03:03:49Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> It’s not our fault that he didn’t include a section for hookers and blow.

LOL! You never know what some of the employees (who are having 2% deducted from their salaries to pay off bonds :eek: ) might be doing below deck. 😛

This is what happened when a member of the Freedom From Religion Foundation visited the place in February. SFW and just over 1 minute in length.

:smack:

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/112 "2017-06-23T03:19:45Z")

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Yeah, you’re laughing now. But when that water starts rising, you’ll be begging, _begging_ for a spot on that ark.

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/113 "2017-06-23T03:20:55Z")

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> [@dtilque](#):
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> Maybe he should have brought in Shem and Japheth as partners…

Seems as though it was more like Ken Ham, Shemp and Curly.

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/114 "2017-06-23T03:23:54Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> “Give me Ham on five and hold the Mayo!”

“Surely you can’t be serious.”

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/115 "2017-06-23T04:36:21Z")

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_Stop calling me “Shirley”._

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> [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](#):
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> Sorry guys, I’m really not enjoying this story ark.

\*\*[There’s parts of the Bible I like and there’s parts of the Bible I don’t like.](https://youtu.be/gBVrncwe9FA) \*\*

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> [@dtilque](#):
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> Maybe he should have brought in Shem and Japheth as partners…

Shem has already [opened up his own hot dog restaurant](http://shemssnackshack.com/index.php/about-us/) in hopes of drawing business from the ark.

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> [@Battle\_Pope](#):
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> \*\*[There’s parts of the Bible I like and there’s parts of the Bible I don’t like.](https://youtu.be/gBVrncwe9FA) \*\*

Much better.

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> The methodology is [probably flawed](http://www.skepticblog.org/2014/05/28/how-many-real-creationists-are-there/), perhaps to an error rate of 4x.

That’s actually more believable and I still think the number is high. I’m living in the bible belt and 40% would be 4 out of 10 people so I’d expect to be hearing this a lot more often than I do. I know 2 people that honestly believe it and probably a half dozen that I would bet do out everyone I’ve interacted with over the years.

I know more anti-vaxxers and they’re nowhere near 10% of the population.

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> It’s already built. I’m sure somebody could buy it at a discount and get the place up and running as a theme park with a toned-down religious message.
> 
> Look at the giant pyramid in Memphis, Tennessee. It flopped as a business venture for the original owners. But now it’s a really cool sporting goods store.

I thought that it was going to be used as a granary.

> [@Princhester](#):
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> Yeah, you’re laughing now. But when that water starts rising, you’ll be begging, _begging_ for a spot on that ark.

Begging, maybe, but I still ain’t paying $40. (plus $10 for parking)

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