# Ken Ham blames "Ark Encounter" failure on atheists

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [June 21, 2017, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575 "2017-06-21T23:28:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/121 "2017-06-23T15:08:12Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> I thought that it was going to be used as a granary.

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/C60iYHFE2pI/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEmCOADEOgC8quKqQMa8AEB-AG-AoAC8AGKAgwIABABGH8gRCgxMA8=&rs=AOn4CLAO7BnCCIqVICrXY8oRAJ6djA9iPg ""Civilization"- ANDREWS SISTERS & DANNY KAYE") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C60iYHFE2pI)

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/122 "2017-06-23T15:17:42Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> Begging, maybe, but I still ain’t paying $40. (plus $10 for parking)

1. That’s for long-term parking(40 days).
2. you get a free carwash.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/123 "2017-06-23T15:21:44Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> 1. That’s for long-term parking(40 days).
> 2. you get a free carwash.

It always rains when I wash my car. ☹

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/124 "2017-06-23T15:46:54Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> It always rains when I wash my car. ☹

Cripes, how many cars have you GOT?

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**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/125 "2017-06-23T15:57:55Z")

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I have a story: On Tuesday we flew to Cincinnati to visit family. The Cincinnati airport is actually across the river in Kentucky, some of you may know. It’s the closest airport to this "museum ".

At the departure airport my wife made small talk with the nice family sitting next to us. “You going to visit family?”

“No, we’re going to see Noah’s Ark!” Then told us about that place while we had frozen smiles on our faces.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/126 "2017-06-23T16:01:13Z")

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> [@suranyi](#):
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> I have a story: On Tuesday we flew to Cincinnati to visit family. The Cincinnati airport is actually across the river in Kentucky, some of you may know. It’s the closest airport to this "museum ".
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> At the departure airport my wife made small talk with the nice family sitting next to us. “You going to visit family?”
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> “No, we’re going to see Noah’s Ark!” Then told us about that place while we had frozen smiles on our faces.

Shoulda asked, “Do you know something we don’t know?”…

Scratch that, then they proselytize. Maybe ask, “You don’t think this rain is going to let up either do you?”

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/127 "2017-06-23T16:29:46Z")

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> [@Trancephalic](#):
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> Can we send Ham back to Australia in a wooden boat?

Nope. He’s a religious nut. Australia got the criminals. We got the religious nuts.

To balance things out, we should send them Charlie Manson.

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**Author:** ![FairyChatMom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fairychatmom/32/21906_2.png) [@FairyChatMom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FairyChatMom)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/128 "2017-06-23T17:42:48Z")

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Had a thought - is he blaming atheists for not flocking to his ark to get all saved and stuff??

Never mind, I should have kept that thought to myself…

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/129 "2017-06-26T22:02:51Z")

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[The latest](http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2017/06/25/ken-ham-continues-to-lower-first-year-attendance-estimates-for-ark-encounter/) on attendance at the Ark Park(ing lot.)

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**Author:** ![ZonexandScout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zonexandscout/32/544_2.png) [@ZonexandScout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZonexandScout)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/130 "2017-06-26T22:20:01Z")

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Has anybody on here been to see it? If so, did he have some unicorns standing around outside the ark, looking disappointed?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/131 "2017-06-26T22:43:16Z")

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I’m actually a Christian, one who thinks Ken Ham is embarrassing, as is his Ark. Could have thought of many things to do with the money that would have, you know, helped people.

Anyway, it reminds me of Kirk Cameron blaming the failure of Saving Christmas on internet atheists who rated it badly on Rotten Tomatoes and so forth.

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**Author:** ![Trancephalic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trancephalic/32/380_2.png) [@Trancephalic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trancephalic)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/132 "2017-06-26T22:50:19Z")

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Oh ho ho what a (L)ark.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2017, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/133 "2017-06-27T03:30:22Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> I’m actually a Christian, one who thinks Ken Ham is embarrassing, as is his Ark. Could have thought of many things to do with the money that would have, you know, helped people.
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> Anyway, it reminds me of Kirk Cameron blaming the failure of Saving Christmas on internet atheists who rated it badly on Rotten Tomatoes and so forth.

I agree 10,000%.

I wonder if local people are willing to work there, or if he has to import employees, and have also heard that the “docents” who are ostensibly there to answer questions are also under orders to chastise, or even escort out, anyone who ridicules or speaks negatively of the exhibits. 😕

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2017, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/134 "2017-06-27T03:38:51Z")

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As I posted elsewhere ('ll skip the full data);

Christians make up 76% of the Kentucky population. Evangelical Christians 49%.

Atheists make up 4% of the Kentucky population.

Rather foolish to blame the failure of your business model on a small population that isn’t your primary audience. That would be like saying your rib joint failed because the vegans didn’t show up.

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**Author:** ![CelticKnot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/celticknot/32/3392_2.png) [@CelticKnot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CelticKnot)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2017, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/135 "2017-06-27T04:11:14Z")

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The place gets 10,000 visitors on a single day on some weekends. They expect to have $750,000 in tax revenue this year. There are 400 buses scheduled to visit this summer. The parking lot is often half full. That’s 2,000 cars. It’s not failing.

> **[Rainy daze: Is Noah's Ark actually sinking?](https://www.wnd.com/2017/06/fake-news-media-claim-new-noahs-ark-sinking/)**
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> A couple of Internet postings in the past few days have attacked the Ark Encounter, the massive reproduction in Kentucky of the biblical Noah's Ark, blasting it for failing as an enterprise, for taking tax money, for not doing enough for the...

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**Author:** ![CelticKnot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/celticknot/32/3392_2.png) [@CelticKnot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CelticKnot)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2017, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/136 "2017-06-27T04:24:53Z")

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Hmmm…

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2017, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/137 "2017-06-27T04:42:12Z")

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> [@CelticKnot](#):
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> The place gets 10,000 visitors on a single day on some weekends. They expect to have $750,000 in tax revenue this year. There are 400 buses scheduled to visit this summer. The parking lot is often half full. That’s 2,000 cars. It’s not failing.  
> [Rainy daze: Is Noah's Ark actually sinking? | WND | by Bob Unruh](http://www.wnd.com/2017/06/fake-news-media-claim-new-noahs-ark-sinking/)

I took one for the team and gave World News Daily some traffic. That site is somewhere to the right of Breitbart. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Trancephalic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trancephalic/32/380_2.png) [@Trancephalic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trancephalic)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2017, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/138 "2017-06-27T05:16:57Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> I took one for the team and gave World News Daily some traffic. That site is somewhere to the right of Breitbart. :dubious:

hey, if jesus can feed five thousand with five loaves and two fish, imagine what he do for your ticket revenue

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2017, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/139 "2017-06-27T10:17:52Z")

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> [@CelticKnot](#):
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> The place gets 10,000 visitors on a single day on some weekends. They expect to have $750,000 in tax revenue this year. There are 400 buses scheduled to visit this summer. The parking lot is often half full. That’s 2,000 cars. It’s not failing.  
> [Rainy daze: Is Noah's Ark actually sinking? | WND | by Bob Unruh](http://www.wnd.com/2017/06/fake-news-media-claim-new-noahs-ark-sinking/)

Even in the extremely unlikely event the WND is telling the truth, you have to factor in however much Ham is skimming off the top.

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2017, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/140 "2017-06-27T11:47:15Z")

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> [@Trancephalic](#):
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> Can we send Ham back to Australia in a wooden boat?

Ham may be stupid [but he’s not that stupid](http://www.news.com.au/national/no-religion-tops-religion-question-in-census/news-story/a3b45e6b2e35df695932a83535078f51).

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