# Ken Ham gave us the Creation Museum, now it's Noah's Ark! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [June 26, 2016, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-gave-us-the-creation-museum-now-its-noahs-ark/758438 "2016-06-26T19:33:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2016, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-gave-us-the-creation-museum-now-its-noahs-ark/758438/1 "2016-06-26T19:33:57Z")
Complete with T-Rexes! [http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/kentucky’s-ark-defies-science-but-evokes-a-version-of-christianity/ar-AAhDlMN?li=BBnbfcL](http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/kentucky%E2%80%99s-ark-defies-science-but-evokes-a-version-of-christianity/ar-AAhDlMN?li=BBnbfcL) I can’t believe he got tax credits from the state for part of the funds to build this. Ugh, and people will point to this as evidence of a young earth. ---
**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2016, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-gave-us-the-creation-museum-now-its-noahs-ark/758438/2 "2016-06-26T19:57:23Z")
If T-Rexes are on that Ark, that’s wrong. The dinosaurs went extinct because there was no room for them on the Ark. God’s will, I guess. Although why an all-powerful God couldn’t shrink them up real small to make them fit, and then restore them to normal size after the waters receded I can’t imagine. It would’ve made a really cool miracle. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2016, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-gave-us-the-creation-museum-now-its-noahs-ark/758438/3 "2016-06-26T20:00:30Z")
I once saw a belated birthday card with two T-Rexes standing on a rock surrounded by water. In the distance the Ark was pulling away. One dino says to the other “Oh crap! Was that _ **today** _?” Found the picture [https://www.google.com/search?q=oh+crap+was+that+today&biw=1024&bih=679&tbm=isch&imgil=KjoM56GuFfWThM%253A%253BOnCoVsvHsavpSM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.funnypicss.com%25252Fcomics%25252Foh-crap-was-that-today%25252F&source=iu&pf=m&fir=KjoM56GuFfWThM%253A%252COnCoVsvHsavpSM%252C\_&usg=\_\_O-jKPRwETaQuj5AM0nIMBY6SvmQ%3D&ved=0ahUKEwjSsdvivcbNAhUJRyYKHUDLCkUQyjcIOQ&ei=czRwV5KsHImOmQHAlquoBA#imgrc=KjoM56GuFfWThM%3A](https://www.google.com/search?q=oh+crap+was+that+today&biw=1024&bih=679&tbm=isch&imgil=KjoM56GuFfWThM%253A%253BOnCoVsvHsavpSM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.funnypicss.com%25252Fcomics%25252Foh-crap-was-that-today%25252F&source=iu&pf=m&fir=KjoM56GuFfWThM%253A%252COnCoVsvHsavpSM%252C_&usg=__O-jKPRwETaQuj5AM0nIMBY6SvmQ%3D&ved=0ahUKEwjSsdvivcbNAhUJRyYKHUDLCkUQyjcIOQ&ei=czRwV5KsHImOmQHAlquoBA#imgrc=KjoM56GuFfWThM%3A) ---
**Author:** ![Leo\_Krupe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@Leo\_Krupe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Krupe)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2016, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-gave-us-the-creation-museum-now-its-noahs-ark/758438/4 "2016-06-26T20:01:21Z")
And [this](http://www.kentucky.com/news/state/article73971147.html) is why it’s dangerous for Republicans to run the states. The Democratic governor, Steve Beshear, vetoed it, but got primaried out of office by Tea Party Matt Bevin. (Not that Beshear was squeaky clean, but he wasn’t this bad.) > [@](#): > > The tax break initially was approved by the Kentucky Tourism Development Finance Authority in 2014 under Gov. Steve Beshear’s administration, but it was later canceled after tourism officials learned that the theme park would hire only Christians. Bob Stewart, then secretary of the Tourism, Arts and Heritage Cabinet, said the U.S. Constitution prohibited the state from assisting a religious endeavor. > > Ark Encounter officials sued the state in federal court, saying the state’s decision to withhold the tax break violated its free speech. In January, U.S. District Judge Greg Van Tatenhove ruled that the theme park was eligible to receive the tax incentive, which has neutral requirements that can be met by religious and secular groups alike. Gov. Matt Bevin said the state would not appeal the decision. I like that. Bevin would not appeal the decision. Oh, boy. Another source: [Beshear asks for dismissal of Ark case](http://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/2015/03/27/beshear-asks-dismissal-ark-case/70571974/) ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2016, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-gave-us-the-creation-museum-now-its-noahs-ark/758438/5 "2016-06-26T20:24:16Z")
Stealing from the state to fund religion. Swell. Because, when you consider God, you just KNOW that he’s surrounded by liars and thieves… ---
**Author:** ![Alley\_Dweller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alley_dweller/32/430_2.png) [@Alley\_Dweller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alley_Dweller)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2016, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-gave-us-the-creation-museum-now-its-noahs-ark/758438/6 "2016-06-26T20:27:02Z")
> [@Leo\_Krupe](#): > > And [this](http://www.kentucky.com/news/state/article73971147.html) is why it’s dangerous for Republicans to run the states. > > The Democratic governor, Steve Beshear, vetoed it, but got primaried out of office by Tea Party Matt Bevin. (Not that Beshear was squeaky clean, but he wasn’t this bad.) I was rather confused by this statement, so I looked it up. To be “primaried out of office” would mean that Beshear and Bevin ran in the same party’s primary and Bevin beat Beshear. As far as I can tell, Beshear was a Democrat and Bevin was a Republican. [As far as I can tell (pdf)](http://elect.ky.gov/SiteCollectionDocuments/Election%20Results/2010-2019/2015/2015%20primary%20results.pf.pdf), Bevin ran in the 2015 Republican primary and Beshear did not run at all in the 2015 primaries. [Beshear’s second term expired December 8, 2015, and he was barred by term limits from seeking re-election to a third consecutive term.](https://ballotpedia.org/Steve_Beshear) ---
**Author:** ![Alley\_Dweller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alley_dweller/32/430_2.png) [@Alley\_Dweller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alley_Dweller)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2016, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-gave-us-the-creation-museum-now-its-noahs-ark/758438/7 "2016-06-26T20:32:59Z")
> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#): > > If T-Rexes are on that Ark, that’s wrong. The dinosaurs went extinct because there was no room for them on the Ark. God’s will, I guess. Although why an all-powerful God couldn’t shrink them up real small to make them fit, and then restore them to normal size after the waters receded I can’t imagine. It would’ve made a really cool miracle. Let’s go a step further, instead of flooding the earth, why couldn’t God have simply said “Poof! All but 2 of each species and a bunch of Noah’s relatives disappear”? That would seem much less trouble than making some poor old man build a humongous boat and gather two of each species. But apparently, He was trying to send some kind of message and dinos weren’t part of His plan. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2016, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-gave-us-the-creation-museum-now-its-noahs-ark/758438/8 "2016-06-26T20:37:31Z")
The tax credit program was designed to promote the development of tourist attractions in Kentucky. Putting aside the religious issues, Mr Ham’s businesses qualify as tourist attractions - and apparently successful ones. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2016, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-gave-us-the-creation-museum-now-its-noahs-ark/758438/9 "2016-06-26T20:43:17Z")
My first thought, on seeing the OP, was: This is news? He’s been building that, and it’s been in the news, for years, with interminable delays. Okay, so I see the news: This things is actually going to open. And soon. So, upon reading the article… Who knew that Noah had Tyvek? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2016, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-gave-us-the-creation-museum-now-its-noahs-ark/758438/10 "2016-06-26T21:16:41Z")
If he had a mannequin dressed up like Marc Bolan on his ark, he’d be more accurate on a timeline scale to when the alleged original ark is to have sailed than he is with a T-Rex. Yee-haw. ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-gave-us-the-creation-museum-now-its-noahs-ark/758438/11 "2016-06-27T01:25:05Z")
I’d like to see Ken Japheth and Ken Shem top that! ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-gave-us-the-creation-museum-now-its-noahs-ark/758438/12 "2016-06-27T01:51:51Z")
> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#): > > If T-Rexes are on that Ark, that’s wrong. The dinosaurs went extinct because there was no room for them on the Ark. God’s will, I guess. Although why an all-powerful God couldn’t shrink them up real small to make them fit, and then restore them to normal size after the waters receded I can’t imagine. It would’ve made a really cool miracle. Bill Cosby explained that: God: Noah! Noah: What? What you want? God: Gotta take one of those hippos out and bring in another one. Noah: What for? God: 'Cause you got two males down there and you need to bring in a female. Noah: I’m not bringin’ nothin’ in. You change one of em’. God: Come on, you know I don’t work like that. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-gave-us-the-creation-museum-now-its-noahs-ark/758438/13 "2016-06-27T03:43:33Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > Bill Cosby explained that: > God: Noah! > > Noah: What? What you want? > > God: Gotta take one of those hippos out and bring in another one. > > Noah: What for? > > God: 'Cause you got two males down there and you need to bring in a female. > > Noah: I’m not bringin’ nothin’ in. You change one of em’. > > God: Come on, you know I don’t work like that. Noah: I’m tellin you what I’m gonna do. I’m lettin’ all these animals out, then I’m gonna burn down this ark, then I’m goin’ to Florida or somethin’ because You haven’t done nuthin’ and…it’s raining…All right Lord, me and You, I knew all along… The Noah segments were the funniest of all Cosby’s work, IMNSHO. ---
**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-gave-us-the-creation-museum-now-its-noahs-ark/758438/14 "2016-06-27T07:31:25Z")
> [@Leo\_Krupe](#): > > And [this](http://www.kentucky.com/news/state/article73971147.html) is why it’s dangerous for Republicans to run the states. > > The Democratic governor, Steve Beshear, vetoed it, but got primaried out of office by Tea Party Matt Bevin. (Not that Beshear was squeaky clean, but he wasn’t this bad.) > > I like that. Bevin would not appeal the decision. Oh, boy. > > Another source: [Beshear asks for dismissal of Ark case](http://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/2015/03/27/beshear-asks-dismissal-ark-case/70571974/) Woops! confused this Creationism with another one, nevermind. ---
**Author:** ![Les\_Espaces\_Du\_Sommeil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/les_espaces_du_sommeil/32/308_2.png) [@Les\_Espaces\_Du\_Sommeil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Les_Espaces_Du_Sommeil)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-gave-us-the-creation-museum-now-its-noahs-ark/758438/15 "2016-06-27T10:00:06Z")
> [@](#): > > And there will be only about 30 pairs of stuffed animals on the Ark Encounter because there just isn’t enough space. “We have to have dozens and dozens of bathrooms for visitors… Dozens and dozens of bathrooms, really ? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Filbert](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/filbert/32/3433_2.png) [@Filbert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Filbert)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 10:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-gave-us-the-creation-museum-now-its-noahs-ark/758438/16 "2016-06-27T10:21:05Z")
> [@Les\_Espaces\_Du\_Sommeil](#): > > Dozens and dozens of bathrooms, really ? :dubious: Well, I guess it is pretty full of crap… ---
**Author:** ![Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uosdwis_R.Dewoh)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-gave-us-the-creation-museum-now-its-noahs-ark/758438/17 "2016-06-27T10:23:36Z")
I find it funny that a man who believes one stone age family could build an entire ark with stone age tools needs a hundred million dollars, a team of engineers, hundreds of workers, and heavy machinery, to build his own. ---
**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-gave-us-the-creation-museum-now-its-noahs-ark/758438/18 "2016-06-27T12:26:19Z")
Baker: > [@](#): > > The Noah segments were the funniest of all Cosby’s work, IMNSHO. It’s up there, but personally, I favor, “No, Dad, he’s Damnit - I’m Jesus Christ!” ---
**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-gave-us-the-creation-museum-now-its-noahs-ark/758438/19 "2016-06-27T12:45:39Z")
> [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](#): > > I find it funny that a man who believes one stone age family could build an entire ark with stone age tools needs a hundred million dollars, a team of engineers, hundreds of workers, and heavy machinery, to build his own. It’s because we live in a fallen age. I blame original sin. ---
**Author:** ![Leo\_Krupe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@Leo\_Krupe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Krupe)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-gave-us-the-creation-museum-now-its-noahs-ark/758438/20 "2016-06-27T14:27:11Z")
> [@cmkeller](#): > > Baker: > > It’s up there, but personally, I favor, “No, Dad, he’s Damnit - I’m Jesus Christ!” Mine has to be either “To Russell…”, “Dad, I swear it was a giant. Then he said he would get…The Belt. We had never seen The Belt…” Or “200 MPH”: “The speedometer starts at zero. And goes allllll the way around to TWO…HUNDRED…MPH…and under the 200, there’s still more room, and the words, ‘Oh, Wow!’” “Tonsils” has to be up there too. “They gave me anesthesia and told me to count backwards from 100. One hundred…ninety-ni…I was out. I couldn’t even get to the second nine I was so pathetic.” Funny, funny material. Too bad the son of a bitch ruined it all. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-gave-us-the-creation-museum-now-its-noahs-ark/758438.md?page=2)