# Ken Wilber explains ISIS **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [October 20, 2015, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-wilber-explains-isis/735234 "2015-10-20T14:05:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-wilber-explains-isis/735234/21 "2015-10-20T19:37:30Z")
Not really much of a debate. Maybe IMHO will fit better. ---
**Author:** ![MrQwertyasd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@MrQwertyasd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrQwertyasd)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-wilber-explains-isis/735234/22 "2015-10-20T19:56:46Z")
That’s a fine place for my nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-wilber-explains-isis/735234/23 "2015-10-20T20:05:44Z")
And here I thought we might finally be discussing chariot racing teams of Byzantium. ---
**Author:** ![Steken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@Steken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steken)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-wilber-explains-isis/735234/24 "2015-10-20T20:42:28Z")
> [@garygnu](#): > > and here i thought we might finally be discussing chariot racing teams of byzantium. Νίκα! Νίκα! Νίκα! ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-wilber-explains-isis/735234/25 "2015-10-20T22:11:36Z")
> [@MrQwertyasd](#): > > No no, he provides a simple basis which you use to interpret the complexities of the world around you. And ISIS are blues. They need to become Greens at least, or the Oranges will bomb the shit out of them until they go back to being Beiges. Why don’t they have blue flags? ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2015, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-wilber-explains-isis/735234/26 "2015-10-20T23:04:54Z")
> [@Steken](#): > > Νίκα! Νίκα! Νίκα! Dig up Justinian’s bones! ---
**Author:** ![MrQwertyasd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@MrQwertyasd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrQwertyasd)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2015, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-wilber-explains-isis/735234/27 "2015-10-21T00:25:46Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Why don’t they have blue flags? What are flags, really ?? ---
**Author:** ![JoseB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/joseb/32/1530_2.png) [@JoseB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoseB)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2015, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-wilber-explains-isis/735234/28 "2015-10-21T08:12:41Z")
> [@MrQwertyasd](#): > > What are flags, really ?? Usually-quadrilateral pieces of cloth with designs on them that symbolize a country, region, city or organization, but it’s not important right now. ---
**Author:** ![MrQwertyasd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@MrQwertyasd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrQwertyasd)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2015, 9:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-wilber-explains-isis/735234/29 "2015-10-21T09:58:55Z")
> [@JoseB](#): > > Usually-quadrilateral pieces of cloth with designs on them that symbolize a country, region, city or organization, but it’s not important right now. So, what should we put in the various quadrants of this “flag” ? ---
**Author:** ![JoseB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/joseb/32/1530_2.png) [@JoseB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoseB)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2015, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-wilber-explains-isis/735234/30 "2015-10-21T14:54:29Z")
> [@MrQwertyasd](#): > > So, what should we put in the various quadrants of this “flag” ? Aaaannnnd, here comes a mighty _whoooosssshhhh_, as if a big _ **Airplane!** _ had passed just above… ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2015, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-wilber-explains-isis/735234/31 "2015-10-21T15:07:41Z")
> [@MrQwertyasd](#): > > So, what should we put in the various quadrants of this “flag” ? Have you ever been in a Turkish prison? ---
**Author:** ![MrQwertyasd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@MrQwertyasd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrQwertyasd)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2015, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-wilber-explains-isis/735234/32 "2015-10-21T19:03:14Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > Have you ever been in a Turkish prison? I met a guy who picked up a heroin habit in a Turkish prison, if that’s any help. ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctor_jackson/32/32_2.png) [@Doctor\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-wilber-explains-isis/735234/33 "2015-10-22T20:10:24Z")
> [@blue\_infinity](#): > > Every human society is neatly colour-coded, and they’re all planets of hats. I like hats but, as a rule, not blue or purple ones. Mostly I wear hats that are predominately white, except my leather Australian outback hat which is brown. I hope this helps. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-wilber-explains-isis/735234/34 "2015-10-22T20:31:49Z")
> [@MrQwertyasd](#): > > **So would fascism be somewhere between the Blue and the Orange** - strong mythical elements, but a modernist approach also for practical reasons ? > > I think Islam as a whole started to get into Orange territory during it’s renaissance years, and maybe in the early twentieth century, but that sort of philosophical development really threatens the existence of the monotheist religions so it has to slump back into the mythicist and magical thinking of Blue. It does make them useful tools for rivalries between Oranges, though. You just have to thwart too many people becoming Oranges and you can foster a whole bunch of Blues you can shove around the chess board. Us folks in the color biz call that “blorange”. ---
**Author:** ![MrQwertyasd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@MrQwertyasd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrQwertyasd)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-wilber-explains-isis/735234/35 "2015-10-23T12:30:53Z")
The ever present threat of the forces of blorange. Yes that works. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-wilber-explains-isis/735234.md?page=1)