# Kennedy: Ich bin ein berliner - What if he visited Hamburg instead?

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [February 20, 2016, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kennedy-ich-bin-ein-berliner-what-if-he-visited-hamburg-instead/746594 "2016-02-20T01:05:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2016, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kennedy-ich-bin-ein-berliner-what-if-he-visited-hamburg-instead/746594/21 "2016-02-23T12:12:14Z")

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> [@AppallingGael](#):
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> He probably would have got kicked in the head by a gang of young toughs jealous over the attention their women were paying him.

Ah, a Beatles reference to Stu Sutcliffe getting beaten up in Hamburg, leading to his brain hemorrhage?

As for the OP, yes, when a person outside a group claims unity with that group, it can often get awkward. Folks should probably just say “we stand united with you!!” and leave it at that 😉

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2016, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kennedy-ich-bin-ein-berliner-what-if-he-visited-hamburg-instead/746594/22 "2016-02-23T16:47:35Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> Yup. Sorry if I was too vague – but I’m glad that Siam Sam and I think alike!

Actually I saw your post and got it, then later forgot it was there. :smack:

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2016, 8:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kennedy-ich-bin-ein-berliner-what-if-he-visited-hamburg-instead/746594/23 "2016-02-24T08:19:36Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> Actually I saw your post and got it, then later forgot it was there. :smack:

🙂

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**Author:** ![the\_diego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@the\_diego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_diego)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2016, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kennedy-ich-bin-ein-berliner-what-if-he-visited-hamburg-instead/746594/24 "2016-02-24T08:22:58Z")

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Ich esse ein hamburger.

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**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2016, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kennedy-ich-bin-ein-berliner-what-if-he-visited-hamburg-instead/746594/25 "2016-02-24T18:30:57Z")

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> [@dtilque](#):
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> Or even [Rottweil](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rottweil)

The name’s [Kennedy](http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/101000/Rottweiler-Dinosaur-Dog--101008.jpg). Remember it. 😉

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**Author:** ![Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/do_not_taunt/32/2968_2.png) [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Do_Not_Taunt)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2016, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kennedy-ich-bin-ein-berliner-what-if-he-visited-hamburg-instead/746594/26 "2016-02-24T19:31:46Z")

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IANAG, but Ich bin der Hamburglar, I think.

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**Author:** ![Donnerwetter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Donnerwetter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Donnerwetter)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2016, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kennedy-ich-bin-ein-berliner-what-if-he-visited-hamburg-instead/746594/27 "2016-02-24T19:56:50Z")

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Kennedy wasn’t able to visit [Amerika](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amerika,_Saxony) since that was a part of East Germany at the time.

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**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2016, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kennedy-ich-bin-ein-berliner-what-if-he-visited-hamburg-instead/746594/28 "2016-02-24T20:03:36Z")

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> [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](#):
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> IANAG, but Ich bin der Hamburglar, I think.

Now you’ve done it–we have to establish the proper gender: das Hamburglar? die Hamburglar? Crap, it’s been a long time since junior high German class; I’ll get back to you. Oh, Herr Taber?

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**Author:** ![Donnerwetter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Donnerwetter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Donnerwetter)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2016, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kennedy-ich-bin-ein-berliner-what-if-he-visited-hamburg-instead/746594/29 "2016-02-24T20:08:25Z")

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Hamburglars end up in jail, sooner or later.

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