# Kent Hovind, Anti-Semite **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [June 1, 2001, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kent-hovind-anti-semite/67232 "2001-06-01T17:05:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2001, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kent-hovind-anti-semite/67232/1 "2001-06-01T17:05:50Z")
When creationists come a’calling, they from time to time bring up Dr. Dino, Kent Hovind. And we go through a ritual of exposing and re-exposing his lies and all. Well, now he has attracted the attention of the Southern Poverty Law Center for his anti-Semitic and anti-democratic behavior as well. As noted in this [Skeptic News item](http://www.skepticnews.com/article.pl?sid=01/05/30/0012227&mode=thread), he even sells _The Protocols of the Elders of Zion_ and has said that Democracy “is evil and contrary to God’s law.” This is the same man who tries to abuse that same democracy by trying to get creationist office-holders to put forth anti-evolution laws, mind you. The Skeptic News item has links to both the SPL news item and a site that analyzes Hovind’s claims. So keep it handy for when the Hovind fans come wandering by again. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2001, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kent-hovind-anti-semite/67232/2 "2001-06-01T17:21:22Z")
It may work elsewhere, but the [short item on Hovind’s anti-semitism](http://www.splcenter.org/cgi-bin/goframe.pl?refname=/intelligenceproject/ip-4r10.html) link seems to be broken when entered from the Skeptic’s page. ---
**Author:** ![december](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/838e76/32.png) [@december](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/december)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2001, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kent-hovind-anti-semite/67232/3 "2001-06-01T18:11:52Z")
> [@](#): > > This is the same man who tries to abuse that same democracy by trying to get creationist office-holders to put forth anti-evolution laws… Anyone who distributes \*The Protocols of the Elders of Zion \* must be an anti-Semite. I would quibble with the above quote. Trying to get creationists in office to put forth anti-evolution laws is a proper use of democracy, but it’s being used to further a socially harmful goal. By contrast, IMHO Roe v. Wade was an abuse of democracy, which achieved a socially beneficial result. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2001, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kent-hovind-anti-semite/67232/4 "2001-06-01T18:23:48Z")
There is nothing inherently good about democracy, which, by the way, the United States ain’t. ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2001, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kent-hovind-anti-semite/67232/5 "2001-06-01T19:02:33Z")
S’okay, because **representative** democracy is contrary to God’s law, too. Every government described in the Bible – including the Kingdom of Heaven – is a monarchy. ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2001, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kent-hovind-anti-semite/67232/6 "2001-06-01T19:07:02Z")
NO! Not Hovind! You mean that he’s full of shit **and** an asshole. Why is it an unsurprising combination of character traits? ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2001, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kent-hovind-anti-semite/67232/7 "2001-06-01T19:40:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by David B \* > \*\* > This is the same man who tries to abuse that same democracy by trying to get creationist office-holders to put forth anti-evolution laws, mind you. > \*\* I’ll just assume that you mean laws that restrict the teaching of evolution. After all, how would go about banning evolution? Funny how morons like Hovind are always criticizing the political systems that gives them the freedom to be critical. ---
**Author:** ![KeithB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/48db29/32.png) [@KeithB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KeithB)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2001, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kent-hovind-anti-semite/67232/8 "2001-06-01T23:11:01Z")
I am not defending Hovind, but the blurb did not say he _distributed_ “The Protocols”. He distributed something called “The fourth Reich of the Rich” (or something like that) and _agreed_ with some of what was in the protocols. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2001, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kent-hovind-anti-semite/67232/9 "2001-06-01T23:28:37Z")
Well, doesn’t [Amazon.com](http://Amazon.com) distribute the Protocols? After all, it can be used for scholarly purposes-like a report on say, Anti-semitism, or frauds, hoaxes, that mindset, etc etc? Just like Mein Kampf. ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2001, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kent-hovind-anti-semite/67232/10 "2001-06-02T00:25:20Z")
According to the SPCL item, he “recommended” the _Protocols_. I don’t know what’s up with that link; if you open a new browser window, paste the following into it, and hit enter, you should get to the article in question: [http://www.splcenter.org/cgi-bin/goframe.pl?refname=/intelligenceproject/ip-4r10.html](http://www.splcenter.org/cgi-bin/goframe.pl?refname=/intelligenceproject/ip-4r10.html) Or you can just go to [Southern Poverty Law Center](http://www.splcenter.org/)’s website, click on the “Intelligence Project” hyperlink, then on the “Intelligence Report” hyperlink, then on the “Intelligence Briefs” hyperlink. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2001, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kent-hovind-anti-semite/67232/11 "2001-06-02T04:18:54Z")
Hovind has, apparently, not put this shining light under a bushel basket: From the [Pacific North West Skeptics](http://www.eskimo.com/~pierres/subscribe/pnwsold10.html) [quote] _Creationists and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion_ Young-earth creationist activity has severely diminished in the Puget Sound area over the past two years. So it came as a surprise that Kent Hovind from Florida paid the region a visit. Folks who are familiar with his stage act know that Hovind is considered the Bob Larson of creationism. A few PNWS members certainly raised their eyebrows when they noticed his Florida address zip code was surrounded by brackets (a favorite, but useless tactic employed by militia sympathizers to declare their “sovereignty” from the Federal government). But upon attending his lecture even they were shocked to see him endorse the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. It’s unusual to see such overt anti-semitic tactics employed by a well known creationist, especially since Hovind speciously links Nazism with evolutionary biology. But then again, it’s uncommon for other creationists to quote Hovind. We can see why. [quote] ---
**Author:** ![edwino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@edwino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/edwino)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2001, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kent-hovind-anti-semite/67232/12 "2001-06-02T05:00:01Z")
Just when I thought I couldn’t possibly have a **lower** opinion of the guy… Goes to show that ignorance knows no bounds. ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2001, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kent-hovind-anti-semite/67232/13 "2001-06-02T05:15:45Z")
tomndebb quoted the Pacific Northwest Skeptics as saying: > [@](#): > > But then again, it’s uncommon for other creationists to quote Hovind. Unfortunately, ol’ [Jack T. Chick’s _Big Daddy?_](http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0055/0055_01.asp) is one of those “uncommon” ones, in that it **does** quote Kent Hovind. ---
**Author:** ![Sofa\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58956e/32.png) [@Sofa\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sofa_King)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2001, 8:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kent-hovind-anti-semite/67232/14 "2001-06-02T08:44:36Z")
Tom, tracer, I love you guys. I did a little looking. [It gets more absurd](http://www.skepticfriends.org/big_phony.asp). [Here is the actual Arkansas bill](http://www.arkleg.state.ar.us/ftproot/bills/2001/htm/HB2548.pdf) (in .pdf format) which appears to quote Kent Hovind’s and **Jack Chick’s** work. Some of it is at least _very_ similar. Sorry if this has been pointed out before. It’s news to me, and just too bizarre to let pass without comment. ---
**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2001, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kent-hovind-anti-semite/67232/15 "2001-06-02T11:56:19Z")
First, let me apologize to everybody for the bad link. I thought I’d fixed the little bugger. Let’s try again: [try this link](http://www.splcenter.org/intelligenceproject/ip-4r10.html) and scroll down to the second item. Also: **KeithB** said: > [@](#): > > I am not defending Hovind, but the blurb did not say he _distributed_ “The Protocols”. He distributed something called “The fourth Reich of the Rich” (or something like that) and _agreed_ with some of what was in the protocols. Yup, I was misremembering the bit about him selling the _Protocols_. But actually, it says he “has recommended” the book. A bit different from simply agreeing with it (and even if it was just agreeing – yeesh!). **Libertarian** said: > [@](#): > > There is nothing inherently good about democracy, which, by the way, the United States ain’t. Gee, thanks. But I didn’t say it was “inherently good” – I noted that Hovind said it was “evil and contrary to God’s law.” Yet he uses these evil democratic systems (and yes, thanks, I know we are not a pure democracy) to try to push his agenda – as Adam and Sofa King (in discussing the Arkansas law, which is exactly what I was thinking of when I typed what I did earlier) both understood. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2001, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kent-hovind-anti-semite/67232/16 "2001-06-02T18:55:31Z")
Well, Hovind is a monster. You’ll get no debate from me on that. ---
**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2001, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kent-hovind-anti-semite/67232/17 "2001-06-02T20:58:49Z")
OK, good. 😉 Now, go out and tell the masses!! ---
**Author:** ![Morrison\_s\_Lament](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Morrison\_s\_Lament](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morrison_s_Lament)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2001, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kent-hovind-anti-semite/67232/18 "2001-06-02T21:05:45Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Libertarian \* > \*\*There is nothing inherently good about democracy, which, by the way, the United States ain’t. \*\* You just singlehandedly restored my faith in the American people for me at a difficult moment. Thanks 😃 — G. Raven ---
**Author:** ![Morrison\_s\_Lament](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Morrison\_s\_Lament](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morrison_s_Lament)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2001, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kent-hovind-anti-semite/67232/19 "2001-06-02T21:07:04Z")
Oops, I guess that came off as sarcastic, I’m addicted to the 😃 smiley… 😃 I really mean it. Kudos, kudos! — G. Raven ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2001, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kent-hovind-anti-semite/67232/20 "2001-06-03T21:17:31Z")
Libertarian wrote: > [@](#): > > Well, Hovind is a monster. He’s covered with blue fur, revels in eating cookies, and has somebody’s hand stuck up his butt? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kent-hovind-anti-semite/67232.md?page=2)