# Kentucky goes to hospital for a circumcision and gets his penis amputated. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [August 19, 2011, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kentucky-goes-to-hospital-for-a-circumcision-and-gets-his-penis-amputated/593366 "2011-08-19T20:08:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kentucky-goes-to-hospital-for-a-circumcision-and-gets-his-penis-amputated/593366/81 "2011-08-24T13:57:21Z")
> [@LurkerInNJ](#): > > The news also mentioned that he had lesions on his penis for 18 to 24 months before he sought medical attention. Yeah, I am entirely unsurprised that there is more to this story than just “reckless doctor cuts off man’s penis without permission.” With the additional facts, the doctor’s actions seem entirely reasonable. (And, frankly, the patient’s do not.) ---
**Author:** ![LurkerInNJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ed655f/32.png) [@LurkerInNJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkerInNJ)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kentucky-goes-to-hospital-for-a-circumcision-and-gets-his-penis-amputated/593366/82 "2011-08-25T15:18:05Z")
Verdict is in! > **[Penis Amputee Receives No Damages in Kentucky Trial](https://abcnews.go.com/Health/jury-backs-doctor-penis-amputation-trial/story?id=14373288)** > > A unanimous jury ruled in favor of the Kentucky doctor who amputated a portion of Phillip Seaton's penis during an October 2007 circumcision procedure to treat inflammation. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kentucky-goes-to-hospital-for-a-circumcision-and-gets-his-penis-amputated/593366/83 "2011-08-25T15:25:30Z")
_However_, if I have to have surgery any time in the near future, I’m gonna write in “except for cutting off any/all of my penis” at the end of the release I sign. ---
**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kentucky-goes-to-hospital-for-a-circumcision-and-gets-his-penis-amputated/593366/84 "2011-08-25T15:42:38Z")
> [@](#): > > The defense attorney also told the jury that Patterson only removed about an inch of the penis during the initial surgery before another surgeon removed the rest of his penis at a later date. So, huh, he was suing the doctor who took off an inch, for loss of service, love, and affection, when apparently the cancer was so pervasive another doctor had to remove the whole thing later? Sounds like the first surgeon was _conservative._ No wonder he lost. ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kentucky-goes-to-hospital-for-a-circumcision-and-gets-his-penis-amputated/593366/85 "2011-08-25T18:09:33Z")
> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#): > > My husband bought me a handgun on Sunday, and as the intended owner, _I_ had to fill out the paperwork. . Wait. Wait, wait, wait, wait, waity wait-wait. So, I’m the only Doper here who cannot get past this sentence??? She’s armed, people. Armed with her considerable mental prowess as well as a fistful of cold deadly steel. Me, I’m going to tread just _that much_ more carefully from here out. 😃 ETA: The Informed Consent issue is handled on a state by state basis, usually by the Dept. of Health. In NYS, the rules are quite clear. They govern how emergency personnel deal with people out in the world, on the side of the roadway, under a car, etc. Being able to provide informed consent and have it stand a legal test is serious stuff. In the case of the surgery, the quote that’s most curious is the one addressing the fact that the fellow’s wife did not accompany him into pre-op. Why was she not asked to go over the legal documents that accompany surgical procedures? Was the hospital in fact at fault here for not sitting said wife down and explaining what her responsibility is in this situation? Very weird. ---
**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kentucky-goes-to-hospital-for-a-circumcision-and-gets-his-penis-amputated/593366/86 "2011-08-25T19:26:04Z")
> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#): > > I’m also glad that Jack Dean Tyler no longer posts on the SDMB. Oh my… ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kentucky-goes-to-hospital-for-a-circumcision-and-gets-his-penis-amputated/593366/87 "2011-08-25T19:44:09Z")
“When you hear about someone going in for a circumcision and it turned into a partial amputation, there’s going to be a reaction, but it was _a pretty clear-cut case_. There was no liability here.” Oh, you just couldn’t resist, could you? ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2011, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kentucky-goes-to-hospital-for-a-circumcision-and-gets-his-penis-amputated/593366/88 "2011-08-25T19:46:27Z")
There’s a reason the phrase " and Penis ensued " is so popular around here. ---
**Author:** ![incoppecy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9f8e36/32.png) [@incoppecy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/incoppecy)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kentucky-goes-to-hospital-for-a-circumcision-and-gets-his-penis-amputated/593366/89 "2011-08-26T23:12:45Z")
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**Author:** ![incoppecy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9f8e36/32.png) [@incoppecy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/incoppecy)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kentucky-goes-to-hospital-for-a-circumcision-and-gets-his-penis-amputated/593366/90 "2011-08-26T23:15:27Z")
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**Author:** ![incoppecy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9f8e36/32.png) [@incoppecy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/incoppecy)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kentucky-goes-to-hospital-for-a-circumcision-and-gets-his-penis-amputated/593366/91 "2011-08-26T23:17:40Z")
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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2011, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kentucky-goes-to-hospital-for-a-circumcision-and-gets-his-penis-amputated/593366/92 "2011-08-28T23:55:12Z")
> [@Peremensoe](#): > > What’s wrong with dialysis as a short-term response, allowing the patient to get second opinions and time to consider how to proceed? If I’m parsing this right, there was pee backing up and damaging his kidneys. Dialysis removes waste materials from the blood, it does not remove pee from the bladder and its associated tubes. Dialysis would therefore not save the kidneys from damage. I have no clue how quickly the pressure had to be removed. I also have no clue whether the suprapubic catheter that \*\*syncope \*\*explained to us would have worked. But dialysis would not have helped the kidneys even a little. > [@Jenaroph](#): > > So, huh, he was suing the doctor who took off an inch, for loss of service, love, and affection, when apparently the cancer was so pervasive another doctor had to remove the whole thing later? . . . Well, the hospital had already settled, meaning they gave him money to go away. Why wouldn’t he try again with the doctor? ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2016, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kentucky-goes-to-hospital-for-a-circumcision-and-gets-his-penis-amputated/593366/93 "2016-01-01T08:15:43Z")
> [@DoctorJ](#): > > The consent form that an overly tired and underpaid CNA makes you take a casual glance at before signing generally includes consent to perform any other procedures that may be deemed necessary by the surgeon. And they get real pissy if you insist on taking the time to read it. Really, the impression I get is they _don’t_ want you to read it, just sign it. God forbid if you express any protest at any provision. It’s all very one-sided. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2016, 8:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kentucky-goes-to-hospital-for-a-circumcision-and-gets-his-penis-amputated/593366/94 "2016-01-01T08:34:16Z")
And… I’ve started the new year by waking up a zombie! Nevermind… Happy New Year everyone! ---
**Author:** ![D18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@D18](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D18)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2016, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kentucky-goes-to-hospital-for-a-circumcision-and-gets-his-penis-amputated/593366/95 "2016-01-01T15:22:15Z")
This is a sincere question: what circumstances led to you replying to a 4 year old thread, when you had been a participant in it all along? I’m genuinely curious!🙂 ---
**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2016, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kentucky-goes-to-hospital-for-a-circumcision-and-gets-his-penis-amputated/593366/96 "2016-01-01T17:54:19Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > And… I’ve started the new year by waking up a zombie! > > Nevermind… Happy New Year everyone! A zombie penis, no less! ---
**Author:** ![dizzee\_dee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7c8e57/32.png) [@dizzee\_dee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dizzee_dee)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2016, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kentucky-goes-to-hospital-for-a-circumcision-and-gets-his-penis-amputated/593366/97 "2016-01-01T18:14:08Z")
ETA: Dammit why do I never look at the dates before posting?? ---
**Author:** ![Memnon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@Memnon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Memnon)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2016, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kentucky-goes-to-hospital-for-a-circumcision-and-gets-his-penis-amputated/593366/98 "2016-01-01T18:23:15Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > And… I’ve started the new year by waking up a zombie! > > Nevermind… Happy New Year everyone! I’m glad you did. If you hadn’t, I’d never have seen this: > [@Larry\_Mudd](#): > > Surgeons. Give 'em an inch, and… Classic 😃 ---
**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2016, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kentucky-goes-to-hospital-for-a-circumcision-and-gets-his-penis-amputated/593366/99 "2016-01-01T18:27:00Z")
The way the title’s phrased made me think they gave the [Kentucky Bend](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kentucky_Bend) back to Missouri. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2016, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kentucky-goes-to-hospital-for-a-circumcision-and-gets-his-penis-amputated/593366/100 "2016-01-01T19:55:56Z")
> [@D18](#): > > This is a sincere question: what circumstances led to you replying to a 4 year old thread, when you had been a participant in it all along? I’m genuinely curious!🙂 Someone referenced this thread in another thread and I felt compelled to reply to a post prior to reading all the way to the end. If I had, I would have realized I’d already been here in the past and… > [@dizzee\_dee](#): > > ETA: Dammit why do I never look at the dates before posting?? …I would have looked at the date. 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kentucky-goes-to-hospital-for-a-circumcision-and-gets-his-penis-amputated/593366.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kentucky-goes-to-hospital-for-a-circumcision-and-gets-his-penis-amputated/593366.md?page=6)