# Kerik removes his name from Homeland Security post

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kerik-removes-his-name-from-homeland-security-post/279264>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 11, 2004, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kerik-removes-his-name-from-homeland-security-post/279264 "2004-12-11T04:35:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2004, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kerik-removes-his-name-from-homeland-security-post/279264/1 "2004-12-11T04:35:18Z")

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[http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/12/10/kerik.withdraws/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/12/10/kerik.withdraws/index.html)

Good move.

The man was a facist idiot.

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**Author:** ![Abbie\_Carmichael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/49beb7/32.png) [@Abbie\_Carmichael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abbie_Carmichael)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2004, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kerik-removes-his-name-from-homeland-security-post/279264/2 "2004-12-11T04:40:11Z")

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He’s quitting because he didn’t pay taxes on the nanny?

Pfft.  
Probably more like he tapped the nanny’s ass and got caught …

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**Author:** ![treis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@treis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/treis)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2004, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kerik-removes-his-name-from-homeland-security-post/279264/3 "2004-12-11T04:41:19Z")

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You’re pitting a good move?

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2004, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kerik-removes-his-name-from-homeland-security-post/279264/4 "2004-12-11T04:41:27Z")

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Don’t they vet these guys?  
You’d think they’d have learned after the [Kissinger fiasco.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=150237&highlight=kissinger)  
This does **not** make me feel safer.

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**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2004, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kerik-removes-his-name-from-homeland-security-post/279264/5 "2004-12-11T04:41:34Z")

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Who wants to deal with another Nannygate?

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**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2004, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kerik-removes-his-name-from-homeland-security-post/279264/6 "2004-12-11T04:42:55Z")

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> [@Abbie Carmichael](#):
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> He’s quitting because he didn’t pay taxes on the nanny?
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> Pfft.  
> Probably more like he tapped the nanny’s ass and got caught …

Oh no. It goes much deeper than that.

Well…not in that way.

You know.

Geez.

Just look into Kerik’s history.

Nothing about tapping there.

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**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2004, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kerik-removes-his-name-from-homeland-security-post/279264/7 "2004-12-11T04:44:20Z")

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> [@treis](#):
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> You’re pitting a good move?

Well, I expect Brutus and Sam along shortly.

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2004, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kerik-removes-his-name-from-homeland-security-post/279264/8 "2004-12-11T04:45:11Z")

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There is also the whole $6 million in stock options for Kerik’s part in selling stun guns to homeland security.

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**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2004, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kerik-removes-his-name-from-homeland-security-post/279264/9 "2004-12-11T04:48:33Z")

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Not to mention his abbreviated stint in Iraq.

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2004, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kerik-removes-his-name-from-homeland-security-post/279264/10 "2004-12-11T04:50:30Z")

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> [@Reeder](#):
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> Good move.
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> The man was a facist idiot.

No, he was a forceful administrator and excellent strategist who presided over one of the most sucessful prison reform programs in the country and then over the NYPD, during which violent crime continued to decline to rates almost unheard of. Then he used his contacts and expertise to make a shitload of money in the private sector. He has done some, errr, _questionable_ things, especially financially, but fascism and idiocy are not among them.

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**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2004, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kerik-removes-his-name-from-homeland-security-post/279264/11 "2004-12-11T05:01:17Z")

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> [@friedo](#):
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> No, he was a forceful administrator and excellent strategist who presided over one of the most sucessful prison reform programs in the country and then over the NYPD, during which violent crime continued to decline to rates almost unheard of. Then he used his contacts and expertise to make a shitload of money in the private sector. He has done some, errr, _questionable_ things, especially financially, but fascism and idiocy are not among them.

You say tomato I say tomahto.

I agree he did a good job as corrections commisioner but…

Every thing he got past that came fron Guliani. You gotta love friends in high places.

Even his nomination for Homeland Security.

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**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2004, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kerik-removes-his-name-from-homeland-security-post/279264/12 "2004-12-11T05:22:56Z")

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“And then Trogdor smote the Kerik, and all was laid to burnination.”

I’ve been wanting to post that since I heard the news this evening. Thank you.

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**Author:** ![danceswithcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9e8a1a/32.png) [@danceswithcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/danceswithcats)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2004, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kerik-removes-his-name-from-homeland-security-post/279264/13 "2004-12-11T05:27:16Z")

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It’s a shame. The man was well qualified. No diss to Ridge, but I was looking forward to someone with law enforcement credentials taking the helm a HLS.

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**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2004, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kerik-removes-his-name-from-homeland-security-post/279264/14 "2004-12-11T05:33:25Z")

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> [@danceswithcats](#):
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> It’s a shame. The man was well qualified. No diss to Ridge, but I was looking forward to someone with law enforcement credentials taking the helm a HLS.

Oh give me a fucking break. Just because the guy was a cop once upon a time he’s qualified??

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**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2004, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kerik-removes-his-name-from-homeland-security-post/279264/15 "2004-12-11T05:38:20Z")

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> [@Reeder](#):
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> Just look into Kerik’s history.
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> Nothing about tapping there.

Like this? -----\> [Kerik’s Bully History](http://www.nydailynews.com/11-08-2002/news/col/rcohen/story/260285p-222902c.html)

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**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2004, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kerik-removes-his-name-from-homeland-security-post/279264/16 "2004-12-11T05:40:50Z")

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> [@Duckster](#):
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> Like this? -----\> [Kerik’s Bully History](http://www.nydailynews.com/11-08-2002/news/col/rcohen/story/260285p-222902c.html)

Exactly like that.

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**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2004, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kerik-removes-his-name-from-homeland-security-post/279264/17 "2004-12-11T05:43:58Z")

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So whom would you, oh great **Reeder** , nominate? You seem to know all the people that are wrong to posts. Why not sack up and tell us all the best person for the post since you have access to all the same info?

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**Author:** ![danceswithcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9e8a1a/32.png) [@danceswithcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/danceswithcats)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2004, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kerik-removes-his-name-from-homeland-security-post/279264/18 "2004-12-11T05:48:07Z")

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Despite his accomplishments in the Army, New Jersey corrections, New York corrections, and NYPD, you’re gonna find something to bitch about, because he’s a Republican being picked by George Bush.

If Dubya tapped Jesus Christ to take a position, you’d still whine and complain. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2004, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kerik-removes-his-name-from-homeland-security-post/279264/19 "2004-12-11T05:50:03Z")

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> [@duffer](#):
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> So whom would you, oh great **Reeder** , nominate? You seem to know all the people that are wrong to posts. Why not sack up and tell us all the best person for the post since you have access to all the same info?

It’s not my place to nominate anyone.

However…

It is Duhbyas place to at least investigate his nominees.

He sure didn’t on this one.

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**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2004, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kerik-removes-his-name-from-homeland-security-post/279264/20 "2004-12-11T05:52:52Z")

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> [@danceswithcats](#):
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> Despite his accomplishments in the Army, New Jersey corrections, New York corrections, and NYPD, you’re gonna find something to bitch about, because he’s a Republican being picked by George Bush.
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> If Dubya tapped Jesus Christ to take a position, you’d still whine and complain. :rolleyes:

Jebus.

Have you ever seen me gripe about Ridge?

Other than the color thingie…which was juvenile at best…I had no problem with him at all.

Well…there was that bit about duct tape.

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