# Kerry: Just as bad a student as Bush

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [June 7, 2005, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kerry-just-as-bad-a-student-as-bush/307324 "2005-06-07T17:50:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![Seven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Seven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seven)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2005, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kerry-just-as-bad-a-student-as-bush/307324/41 "2005-06-10T07:43:04Z")

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Kerry who???

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**Author:** ![Busy\_Scissors](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d78d45/32.png) [@Busy\_Scissors](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Busy_Scissors)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2005, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kerry-just-as-bad-a-student-as-bush/307324/42 "2005-06-10T10:54:50Z")

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> [@Walloon](#):
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> From the Associated Press today:Thought I’d toss this out as red meat for all you Bush bashers and Kerry bashers. And to give hope to all you who just got by in college.

Don’t know what grade inflation and falling standards of assessment are like in the US, but its possible that a 76,77 average might have been quite decent back in the day. Probably a better mark then than now.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2005, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kerry-just-as-bad-a-student-as-bush/307324/43 "2005-06-10T11:11:33Z")

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> [@Myler Keogh](#):
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> Don’t know what grade inflation and falling standards of assessment are like in the US, but its possible that a 76,77 average might have been quite decent back in the day. Probably a better mark then than now.

I can’t believe this actually popped up on Google, but here’s the whole history of the [Yale grading system](http://www.yale.edu/oir/book_numbers_updated/E8%20_Summary_Undgrad_Requirements_and_Grading.pdf). (2-page PDF.)

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> Fall 1932 through Spring 1966 :
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> A 100-point numerical grading system was used in Yale College with the following demarcations:
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> A 90-100 B 80-89 C 70-79 D (passing) 60-69 F 50-59

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**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2005, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kerry-just-as-bad-a-student-as-bush/307324/44 "2005-06-10T12:42:03Z")

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I looked at the news stories, and I came to one conclusion that should be relatively uncontroversial.

[John Kerry was pretty goofy looking back in the day.](http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2005/06/07/yale_grades_portray_kerry_as_a_lackluster_student/)

There were lots of stories during the campaign about supposed plastic surgery undertaken by John Kerry at various times, including allegations of fake tans and Botox injections. Whatever he had done has improved his looks considerably, so I can’t fault him for it.

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2005, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kerry-just-as-bad-a-student-as-bush/307324/45 "2005-06-10T13:35:18Z")

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:eek: Dear sweet merciful god in heaven. It burns. The goggles do nothing.

I wonder if President Bush has to keep that unibrow plucked.

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