# Kevin Spacey comes out in response to accusation of sexual harassment of 14-year old boy **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 30, 2017, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kevin-spacey-comes-out-in-response-to-accusation-of-sexual-harassment-of-14-year-old-boy/800221 "2017-10-30T12:50:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2017, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kevin-spacey-comes-out-in-response-to-accusation-of-sexual-harassment-of-14-year-old-boy/800221/201 "2017-11-16T19:04:29Z")
Here is a list of the previous 15 accusations. Only 3 were from the Old Vic so there are now roughly double that number. > **[Kevin Spacey scandal: A complete list of the 15 accusers](https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/2017/11/07/kevin-spacey-scandal-complete-list-13-accusers/835739001/)** > > More than a dozen men and teen boys have accused Kevin Spacey of sexual misconduct, including attempted rape. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kevin-spacey-comes-out-in-response-to-accusation-of-sexual-harassment-of-14-year-old-boy/800221/202 "2018-04-11T23:10:13Z")
> **[Kevin Spacey sexual assault case under review | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/11/entertainment/kevin-spacey/index.html)** > > The Los Angeles County District Attorney is reviewing a sexual assault case against actor Kevin Spacey, officials tell CNN. LA sheriff is looking into an assault case from 1992. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2018, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kevin-spacey-comes-out-in-response-to-accusation-of-sexual-harassment-of-14-year-old-boy/800221/203 "2018-12-24T20:25:07Z")
he is charged with a felony from an assault in 2016 in Nantucket > **[Kevin Spacey faces felony sex assault charge; releases bizarre video](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/kevin-spacey-faces-felony-charge-allegedly-groping-teen-nantucket-bar-n951671)** > > The announcement of the charge coincided with a video posted on Spacey's Twitter account showing him in character as Frank Underwood of "House of Cards." ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2018, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kevin-spacey-comes-out-in-response-to-accusation-of-sexual-harassment-of-14-year-old-boy/800221/204 "2018-12-24T21:17:38Z")
Has anyone here seen the absolutely bizarre video he released today, right before being charged? It is so weird. He’s commenting on the allegations against him in the persona of Frank Underwood. What made him this this video was a _good_ idea!? Seriously , this is how he resurfaces after being completely quiet for over a year? [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/JZveA-NAIDI/maxresdefault.jpg "Let Me Be Frank") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZveA-NAIDI) ---
**Author:** ![Rushgeekgirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rushgeekgirl/32/3715_2.png) [@Rushgeekgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rushgeekgirl)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2018, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kevin-spacey-comes-out-in-response-to-accusation-of-sexual-harassment-of-14-year-old-boy/800221/205 "2018-12-24T21:46:32Z")
> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#): > > Has anyone here seen the absolutely bizarre video he released today, right before being charged? It is so weird. He’s commenting on the allegations against him in the persona of Frank Underwood. What made him this this video was a _good_ idea!? Seriously , this is how he resurfaces after being completely quiet for over a year? > > [https://youtu.be/JZveA-NAIDI](https://youtu.be/JZveA-NAIDI) “Absolutely bizarre” is a perfect description. What the hell is he thinking? ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2018, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kevin-spacey-comes-out-in-response-to-accusation-of-sexual-harassment-of-14-year-old-boy/800221/206 "2018-12-24T22:49:38Z")
That is straight from bizarro land. Cookoo! ---
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2018, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kevin-spacey-comes-out-in-response-to-accusation-of-sexual-harassment-of-14-year-old-boy/800221/207 "2018-12-24T23:38:36Z")
Was gonna start a thread about his video. “Bizarre” is an understatement. He seems to be working off the assumption that Americans root for Frank Underwood and thus, will extend this support to him. Frank Underwood is undeniably a villain, though. Just the type of villain who would do something horrible to another person and then lie about it without a twinge of remorse. Just the kind of bastard who thinks those little pesky rules of conduct, such as get consent before groping someone, don’t apply to men like him. _This_ is whom he wants us to think of in the days leading up to his court date. Unbelievable. Kevin Spacey apparently didn’t get the memo that current events make Frank Underwood unwatchable now. We’ve had our fill of rapey, dishonest politicians, as well as actors who behave the same way. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kevin-spacey-comes-out-in-response-to-accusation-of-sexual-harassment-of-14-year-old-boy/800221/208 "2018-12-25T00:37:12Z")
I haven’t watched the video, but I would probably suggest that people tend to make bad decisions when they’re under extreme stress. (To give a technical answer to the rhetorical question.) ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kevin-spacey-comes-out-in-response-to-accusation-of-sexual-harassment-of-14-year-old-boy/800221/209 "2018-12-25T00:46:42Z")
Holy Cow. I wondered how he was holding up. I sense he’s a tad bitter. ---
**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kevin-spacey-comes-out-in-response-to-accusation-of-sexual-harassment-of-14-year-old-boy/800221/210 "2018-12-25T00:58:36Z")
> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#): > > Has anyone here seen the absolutely bizarre video he released today, right before being charged? It is so weird. He’s commenting on the allegations against him in the persona of Frank Underwood. What made him this this video was a _good_ idea!? Seriously , this is how he resurfaces after being completely quiet for over a year? > > [https://youtu.be/JZveA-NAIDI](https://youtu.be/JZveA-NAIDI) I’ve only seen the short bit of it that was on the news. It’s truly a Norma Desmond moment. ---
**Author:** ![MichaelEmouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/michaelemouse/32/101_2.png) [@MichaelEmouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MichaelEmouse)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kevin-spacey-comes-out-in-response-to-accusation-of-sexual-harassment-of-14-year-old-boy/800221/211 "2018-12-25T02:03:13Z")
> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#): > > What made him this this video was a _good_ idea!? Desperation, drugs/alcohol? He’ll be a prime candidate for the 2019 death pool. His most famous roles involve a messed up personality hiding under a manipulative veneer of appropriateness. I guess he’s always been good at that but now everything is slipping away. ---
**Author:** ![Royal\_Nonesutch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecb155/32.png) [@Royal\_Nonesutch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Royal_Nonesutch)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2018, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kevin-spacey-comes-out-in-response-to-accusation-of-sexual-harassment-of-14-year-old-boy/800221/212 "2018-12-26T23:35:27Z")
It turns out that the 18 year-old who is the alleged victim in Kevin Spacey’s felony indecent assault and battery filmed the attack on Snapchat. The 18 year-old told Spacey that he was actually 23, accepted several drinks from him, engaged with him in sexual banter when they were outside smoking together and continued to hang out drinking with him even after Spacey began to fondle him thru his open fly, all while surreptitiously filming the incident. I am in no way defending the vile, entitled, sexually predatory Kevin Spacey, but it is clear to me that this was a classic “Honey Trap” and a setup for a good olde-fashioned Shoogar Shakedown by a young man with dollar signs in his eyes. He played the old lech like a pro, and I bet my bottom dollar that when Spacey called his bluff and balked at paying up the hush money, the teen decided to go public, thinking that the jig was up. As for Spacey, it seems like he may have finally gotten himself into a position that he can’t squirm his way out of, and may well end up seeing the inside of a Massachusetts prison cell, especially if his other alleged victims are allowed to have their say. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2018, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kevin-spacey-comes-out-in-response-to-accusation-of-sexual-harassment-of-14-year-old-boy/800221/213 "2018-12-27T00:24:41Z")
Which incident was this? ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2018, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kevin-spacey-comes-out-in-response-to-accusation-of-sexual-harassment-of-14-year-old-boy/800221/214 "2018-12-27T00:28:36Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > Which incident was this? The incident that led to criminal charges. > **[Actor Kevin Spacey charged with indecent assault on teen in Massachusetts](https://www.kcrg.com/content/news/Actor-Kevin-Spacey-charged-with-indecent-assault-on-teen-in-Massachusetts-503482481.html)** > > Oscar-winning actor Kevin Spacey is facing a felony charge of indecent assault and battery on an 18-year-old busboy in Massachusetts stemming from an incident in July 2016 at a Nantucket bar, according to a criminal complaint filed in Nantucket... ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2018, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kevin-spacey-comes-out-in-response-to-accusation-of-sexual-harassment-of-14-year-old-boy/800221/215 "2018-12-27T03:42:49Z")
Spacey seems to have gone to the Michael Jackson School of Self Incrimination. ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kevin-spacey-comes-out-in-response-to-accusation-of-sexual-harassment-of-14-year-old-boy/800221/216 "2018-12-28T14:14:15Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > The incident that led to criminal charges. > > [Actor Kevin Spacey charged with indecent assault on teen in Massachusetts](https://www.kcrg.com/content/news/Actor-Kevin-Spacey-charged-with-indecent-assault-on-teen-in-Massachusetts-503482481.html) I’m probably going to get flamed for this, but assuming the allegations are true, I do not see a sexual assault here. He told Spacey that he was 23, they starting drinking and engaging in sexual banter, and Spacey rubs the man’s thigh and unzips his pants prior to fondling his genitals. Instead of recoiling at any point in this process and telling Spacey he is not interested, he pulls out a cell phone and begins filming it. This seems to me to be a standard progression of a sexual encounter, and the man’s actions scream of blackmail. ---
**Author:** ![Poysyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Poysyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poysyn)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kevin-spacey-comes-out-in-response-to-accusation-of-sexual-harassment-of-14-year-old-boy/800221/217 "2018-12-28T16:57:20Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > I’m probably going to get flamed for this, but assuming the allegations are true, I do not see a sexual assault here. > > He told Spacey that he was 23, they starting drinking and engaging in sexual banter, and Spacey rubs the man’s thigh and unzips his pants prior to fondling his genitals. Instead of recoiling at any point in this process and telling Spacey he is not interested, he pulls out a cell phone and begins filming it. > > This seems to me to be a standard progression of a sexual encounter, and the man’s actions scream of blackmail. I have heard similar responses from men that have met a woman at a nightclub, and after spending some intimate time, they find out that the woman is actually underage and was in the club with a fake ID. It is on the part of the person instigating the sexual contact to confirm all is lawful and consent. Period. I know that may seem unfair, but that is the way of things. That said, conviction rates for sexual assault are dreadfully low anyway. It is statistically unlikely that he will be found guilty. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kevin-spacey-comes-out-in-response-to-accusation-of-sexual-harassment-of-14-year-old-boy/800221/218 "2018-12-28T17:29:03Z")
> [@Poysyn](#): > > I have heard similar responses from men that have met a woman at a nightclub, and after spending some intimate time, they find out that the woman is actually underage and was in the club with a fake ID. > > It is on the part of the person instigating the sexual contact to confirm all is lawful and consent. Period. I know that may seem unfair, but that is the way of things. That said, conviction rates for sexual assault are dreadfully low anyway. It is statistically unlikely that he will be found guilty. Isn’t 18 the legal age of consent, though? ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kevin-spacey-comes-out-in-response-to-accusation-of-sexual-harassment-of-14-year-old-boy/800221/219 "2018-12-28T17:31:45Z")
> [@Poysyn](#): > > I have heard similar responses from men that have met a woman at a nightclub, and after spending some intimate time, they find out that the woman is actually underage and was in the club with a fake ID. > > It is on the part of the person instigating the sexual contact to confirm all is lawful and consent. Period. I know that may seem unfair, but that is the way of things. That said, conviction rates for sexual assault are dreadfully low anyway. It is statistically unlikely that he will be found guilty. The age is not an issue here. This is not a juvenile, he was 18. It’s slready been stipulated that he told Spacey he was 23. Was the sexual contact consensual? Did Spacey ply him with alcohol and wait until he was too intoxicated to stop unwanted sexual contact? Was he too intoxicated to give consent? Supposedly there is a video. If the video helps the defense I find it hard to believe it would have gone this far through the legal system. I’m guessing it goes a long way to proving the state’s case. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kevin-spacey-comes-out-in-response-to-accusation-of-sexual-harassment-of-14-year-old-boy/800221/220 "2018-12-28T17:33:09Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Isn’t 18 the legal age of consent, though? See above reply. In most states it’s lower than 18. The age isn’t a factor at all in this case. If Spacey knew he was 18 there could be some minor charge of providing alcohol for someone under 21. But that would be the least of his problems. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kevin-spacey-comes-out-in-response-to-accusation-of-sexual-harassment-of-14-year-old-boy/800221.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kevin-spacey-comes-out-in-response-to-accusation-of-sexual-harassment-of-14-year-old-boy/800221.md?page=12)