# Khaaaaannnnnn!!!!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 6, 2011, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/khaaaaannnnnn/587977 "2011-07-06T02:04:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Frazzled](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frazzled/32/3368_2.png) [@Frazzled](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frazzled)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2011, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/khaaaaannnnnn/587977/1 "2011-07-06T02:04:37Z")
SyFy was showing Star Trek 2: The Wrath of Khan tonight when I got home. Even after about 30 years this movie still looks great! Everything works - the music, the acting (shocking given that this movie has the most parodied line of all the Star Trek movies), and even the special effects! One thing I had never noticed until this viewing is how they use the view screen. Usually in Star Trek the view screen seems to be either a window looking outside, or a screen to talk to the captains of nearby ships. But in this film, they actually use the screen to convey tactical information for the officers to make decisions. The computer graphics are dated - but used very effectively - especially because the plot was centered around characters rather than special effects. I admit I choked up when Spock died (30 years != spoiler): “You have been, and always shall be, my friend” Props also to Kirstie Alley - I forgot how cute she was! Share the love for Khan ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2011, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/khaaaaannnnnn/587977/2 "2011-07-06T02:16:19Z")
> [@Frazzled](#): > > SyFy was showing Star Trek 2: The Wrath of Khan tonight when I got home. Even after about 30 years this movie still looks great! You were obviously looking at Kirstie Alley, and not at Shatner’s odd hair. That’s the thing that stands out as really horrid after all these years. Otherwise, great movie! One of the very few I’ll watch and enjoy every single time it’s on. ---
**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2011, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/khaaaaannnnnn/587977/3 "2011-07-06T02:24:48Z")
> [@Frazzled](#): > > Share the love for Khan There’s already a thread about it. > **[Straus-Kahn case falling apart. Duke lacrosse, etc.?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=614615)** > > From the NY Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/01/nyregion/strauss-kahn-case-seen-as-in-jeopardy.html?exprod=myyahoo I want this guy to be guilty just to send a message to the pigs out there. Yet, it’s starting to look like it just may have been... ---
**Author:** ![Frazzled](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frazzled/32/3368_2.png) [@Frazzled](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frazzled)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2011, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/khaaaaannnnnn/587977/4 "2011-07-06T02:29:32Z")
The password to take complete control (remotely) of a starship is a simple 5 digit number. With that kind of security I could control an entire fleet of starships using nothing more than the laptop I’m typing on right now! ---
**Author:** ![Frazzled](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frazzled/32/3368_2.png) [@Frazzled](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frazzled)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2011, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/khaaaaannnnnn/587977/5 "2011-07-06T02:30:44Z")
> [@Capitaine\_Zombie](#): > > There’s already a thread about it. > > [Straus-Kahn case falling apart. Duke lacrosse, etc.? - Great Debates - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=614615) Straus-Kaaaaahhhhnnnnn!!! ---
**Author:** ![FordTaurusSHO94](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f07891/32.png) [@FordTaurusSHO94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FordTaurusSHO94)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2011, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/khaaaaannnnnn/587977/6 "2011-07-06T04:27:00Z")
> [@Frazzled](#): > > The password to take complete control (remotely) of a starship is a simple 5 digit number. With that kind of security I could control an entire fleet of starships using nothing more than the laptop I’m typing on right now! I guess it’s fixed by the time the Sovereign class is rolled out, as Data punched in a massive password to lock out the ship’s computer from the Borg. ---
**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2011, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/khaaaaannnnnn/587977/7 "2011-07-06T04:53:12Z")
Those ear-worm-thingies…\ Does ANYone forget that after having seen it?:eek: ewwwwwww ---
**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2011, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/khaaaaannnnnn/587977/8 "2011-07-06T05:06:06Z")
> [@Frazzled](#): > > The password to take complete control (remotely) of a starship is a simple 5 digit number. With that kind of security I could control an entire fleet of starships using nothing more than the laptop I’m typing on right now! Just a guess, but they did call that 5 digit number a _prefix_ code. Just because the “which ship” prefix code is short and readily accessible does not mean that Kirk didn’t add his own Admiral-only “lower shields” code to the end of it. ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2011, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/khaaaaannnnnn/587977/9 "2011-07-06T11:57:51Z")
Previously, the code had been, “left-left-up-down-X.” ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2011, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/khaaaaannnnnn/587977/10 "2011-07-06T13:12:54Z")
> [@Grumman](#): > > Just a guess, but they did call that 5 digit number a _prefix_ code. Just because the “which ship” prefix code is short and readily accessible does not mean that Kirk didn’t add his own Admiral-only “lower shields” code to the end of it. Admiral? Admiral! Admiral. Ricardo Montalban makes this movie. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2011, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/khaaaaannnnnn/587977/11 "2011-07-06T13:21:37Z")
> [@Frazzled](#): > > SyFy was showing Star Trek 2: The Wrath of Khan tonight when I got home. Even after about 30 years this movie still looks great! :eek: _\_ ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2011, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/khaaaaannnnnn/587977/12 "2011-07-06T13:29:32Z")
The best Star Trek movie, hands down. ---
**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2011, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/khaaaaannnnnn/587977/13 "2011-07-06T13:33:32Z")
> [@Frazzled](#): > > …Props also to Kirstie Alley - I forgot how cute she was! > > … Except how she was the only other Vulcan at Spock’s funeral, and she was crying! Oh well, she was cute, great movie too. ---
**Author:** ![Frazzled](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frazzled/32/3368_2.png) [@Frazzled](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frazzled)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2011, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/khaaaaannnnnn/587977/14 "2011-07-06T14:59:55Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > Admiral? Admiral! Admiral. > Ricardo Montalban makes this movie. I wonder - if the movie were made in the mid 70’s would Khan have been sporting thick chest hair in his uniform? That might be fun with a big disco ball on the bridge especially since all of Khan’s bridge crew were actual Chippendale dancers. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2011, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/khaaaaannnnnn/587977/15 "2011-07-06T15:03:16Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > :eek: _\_ Have some Romulan ale. I got a ship that brings me in a case every now and then across the Neutral Zone. ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2011, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/khaaaaannnnnn/587977/16 "2011-07-06T15:05:23Z")
> [@Frazzled](#): > > The password to take complete control (remotely) of a starship is a simple 5 digit number. With that kind of security I could control an entire fleet of starships using nothing more than the laptop I’m typing on right now! Presumadely, encrypted. But since we’re “all one big happy fleet”, the Enterprise knows which key to use today. ---
**Author:** ![panamajack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/47e85d/32.png) [@panamajack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panamajack)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2011, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/khaaaaannnnnn/587977/17 "2011-07-06T15:07:05Z")
> [@Taomist](#): > > Those ear-worm-thingies…\ Does ANYone forget that after having seen it?:eek: ewwwwwww They sort of stick in your head, don’t they? (The little-known truth is that those were earworms in a more figurative sense, too. Once inside, they just sing songs over and over. The captain’s happened to be William Shatner songs. He wasn’t trying to kill Kirk; he was trying to stop the music.) ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2011, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/khaaaaannnnnn/587977/18 "2011-07-06T15:09:42Z")
> [@BMalion](#): > > Except how she was the only other Vulcan at Spock’s funeral, and she was crying! > > Oh well, she was cute, great movie too. Saavik was supposed to be half Romulan, although that part never made it to the film. > **[Saavik](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saavik)** > > Saavik is a fictional character in the Star Trek universe. She first appeared in the film Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan (1982) played by Kirstie Alley. Robin Curtis took over the role for Star Trek III: The Search for Spock (1984) and Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home (1986). > Saavik's background was never explored on screen. It has, however, been fleshed out in novels and comic books, though none of these sources are considered canon. According to the novels and comics, Saavik was born on Hellguar... ---
**Author:** ![zamboniracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9a140/32.png) [@zamboniracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zamboniracer)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2011, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/khaaaaannnnnn/587977/19 "2011-07-06T15:15:00Z")
> [@Frazzled](#): > > Props also to Kirstie Alley - I forgot how cute she was! As my friend Mike said 30 years ago, “She has great…ears.”😃 ---
**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2011, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/khaaaaannnnnn/587977/20 "2011-07-06T15:17:17Z")
> [@mlees](#): > > Saavik was supposed to be half Romulan, although that part never made it to the film. > > [Saavik - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saavik) Then it doesn’t exist. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/khaaaaannnnnn/587977.md?page=2)