# Kick-Ass 2

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kick-ass-2/661874>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 25, 2013, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kick-ass-2/661874 "2013-06-25T15:07:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2013, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kick-ass-2/661874/1 "2013-06-25T15:07:34Z")

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> **[Kick-Ass 2 (film)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kick-Ass_2_(film))**
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> Kick-Ass 2 is a 2013 black comedy superhero film written and directed by Jeff Wadlow, based on the graphic novels Book Two and Book Three of Kick-Ass: The Dave Lizewski Years\[b\] by Mark Millar and John Romita, Jr., and serving as a sequel to 2010's Kick-Ass. It stars Aaron Taylor-Johnson, Christopher Mintz-Plasse, Chloë Grace Moretz, and Jim Carrey, with the former trio reprising their roles from the first film. The film follows Dave Lizewski / Kick-Ass (Taylor-Johnson), who joins a vigilante ...

_Kick-Ass 2_ is coming out Aug. 16 in the U.S. I really enjoyed the first, and am looking forward to the sequel.

Looks like Jim Carrey’s having second thoughts about his role, though: [http://marquee.blogs.cnn.com/2013/06/24/jim-carrey-withdraws-support-of-his-movie-kick-ass-2/?iref=allsearch](http://marquee.blogs.cnn.com/2013/06/24/jim-carrey-withdraws-support-of-his-movie-kick-ass-2/?iref=allsearch)

Scroll to the bottom of that story for a trailer.

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2013, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kick-ass-2/661874/2 "2013-06-25T15:14:27Z")

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Not so excited here. I disliked some of the changes made for the film from the graphic novel

for example, Hit Girl’s rather colorful vocabulary is not consistent with Nick Cage’s Big Daddy. In the graphic novel, Big Daddy had lied about being an ex-cop, and was really a sociopath

I do not have high hopes for a sequel.

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**Author:** ![Double\_Foolscap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85e7bf/32.png) [@Double\_Foolscap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Double_Foolscap)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2013, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kick-ass-2/661874/3 "2013-06-25T15:21:19Z")

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So… what does this mean? Is Carrey going to give his pay to charity or something?

He doesn’t have to, obviously, but starring in a film and then going on record about how he doesn’t like it seems like having one’s cake and eat it.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2013, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kick-ass-2/661874/4 "2013-06-25T15:46:21Z")

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> [@DrFidelius](#):
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> Not so excited here. I disliked some of the changes made for the film from the graphic novel

I’m the opposite way. I’m not a big fan of Millar and I find that his work is usually better when other people step in and dampen down his excesses.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2013, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kick-ass-2/661874/5 "2013-06-25T15:48:22Z")

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> [@Double\_Foolscap](#):
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> He doesn’t have to, obviously, but starring in a film and then going on record about how he doesn’t like it seems like having one’s cake and eat it.

According to Carrey, he generally supported the movie when he was making it. He says that after the movie was made, the Newtown shooting changed his views on the way violence is portrayed in entertainment.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2013, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kick-ass-2/661874/6 "2013-06-25T23:49:09Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> According to Carrey, he generally supported the movie when he was making it. He says that after the movie was made, the Newtown shooting changed his views on the way violence is portrayed in entertainment.

:rolleyes:

Was his face covered in ashes and his clothing rent when he announced it?

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kick-ass-2/661874/7 "2013-06-26T00:13:10Z")

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Someone should tell Fire Marshall Bill that more kids have died from lack of vaccines than of shootings. 😛

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**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kick-ass-2/661874/8 "2013-06-26T01:08:38Z")

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I liked the first one immensely and was stoked when I saw they’re making a sequel. I’ll hopefully be there opening night.

And if Carey doesn’t donate his entire check from the movie to charity then I’ll view him as a hypocrite. I’m sure he’s broken up about it.

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**Author:** ![Hail\_Ants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/dc4da7/32.png) [@Hail\_Ants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hail_Ants)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kick-ass-2/661874/9 "2013-06-26T11:59:53Z")

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I knew/know nothing of the graphic novel it was based on, but I was pleasantly surprised with the first one. Mostly by the ballsiness of the studio to keep it an R-rated adult film with genuine drama instead of watering it down to a pointlessly anemic PG-13 teen action schlock-fest!

You should read [Roger Ebert’s review of the first one.](http://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/kick-ass-2010) He utterly despised it for exactly the same reason I stated above, in that he felt it was inherently a kid’s movie that was extremely, graphically violent.

As far as Carrey’s reservations, heavy sigh… Keep your liberal guilt to yourself mister long time $20 million dollar club member.

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**Author:** ![planetcory](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/planetcory/32/1032_2.png) [@planetcory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/planetcory)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kick-ass-2/661874/10 "2013-06-26T12:31:40Z")

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When we hate our jobs, no one ever asks us to give back our paychecks. Lots of us have done work we’re not at all proud of. We earned our pay, left and never looked back.

He got paid to work and he worked. And I’m sure he gave something close to his best.

Hypocrisy would be if he now receives any percentage on the profit.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kick-ass-2/661874/11 "2013-06-26T13:47:11Z")

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> [@planetcory](#):
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> When we hate our jobs, no one ever asks us to give back our paychecks. Lots of us have done work we’re not at all proud of. We earned our pay, left and never looked back…

We also don’t give interviews about our moral crises before taking home our whopping huge paychecks.

At least I don’t.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kick-ass-2/661874/12 "2013-06-26T14:19:38Z")

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Also, the vast majority of us aren’t wealthy enough to sit at home and only take jobs that we can personally verify pass our rigorous moral standards, with lots of support and discussions with our bosses before we even do a lick of work, meanwhile living it up in million dollar mansions with our series of hot, wealthy (and in this case, insane anti-vaxxer) girlfriends.

Or at least I’m not in that position.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kick-ass-2/661874/13 "2013-06-26T14:24:32Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> Also, the vast majority of us aren’t wealthy enough to sit at home and only take jobs that we can personally verify pass our rigorous moral standards, with lots of support and discussions with our bosses before we even do a lick of work, meanwhile living it up in million dollar mansions with our series of hot, wealthy (and in this case, insane anti-vaxxer) girlfriends.
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> Or at least I’m not in that position.

Speak for yourself.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kick-ass-2/661874/14 "2013-06-26T14:38:16Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> Speak for yourself.

I sit corrected.

BTW, congratulations and commiserations on your attractive but insane girlfriend.

ETA: Oh, and can I borrow a million bucks? Er, my ‘house’ could use a few renovations?

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**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kick-ass-2/661874/15 "2013-06-26T15:36:09Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> :rolleyes:
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> Was his face covered in ashes and his clothing rent when he announced it?

never mind how many kids he’s killed with his anti-vax nonsense.

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**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kick-ass-2/661874/16 "2013-06-26T16:47:47Z")

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Controversy is good for opening night. I’m sure Millar is secretly thrilled. That unethical slimeball is purposely building his empire on a pile of bullet-riddled child corpses!

Okay, maybe not the last one.

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**Author:** ![AaronX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7bcc69/32.png) [@AaronX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AaronX)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kick-ass-2/661874/17 "2013-06-26T17:09:01Z")

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Is it me, or has Carrey mellowed a lot recently? His films have changed, like Mr Popper’s Penguins, and he’s seemed to become very spiritual (wearing wings at some party). If you look at his Twitter feed, a lot of his tweets are philosophical as well.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kick-ass-2/661874/18 "2013-06-26T17:34:50Z")

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Gotta share this: [- YouTube](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRZ781Pm5Mg)

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**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kick-ass-2/661874/19 "2013-06-26T19:41:33Z")

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> [@AaronX](#):
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> Is it me, or has Carrey mellowed a lot recently? His films have changed, like Mr Popper’s Penguins, and he’s seemed to become very spiritual (wearing wings at some party). If you look at his Twitter feed, a lot of his tweets are philosophical as well.

It’s a frequent occurrence when beginning one’s second century on the planet.

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**Author:** ![epbrown01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@epbrown01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown01)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kick-ass-2/661874/20 "2013-06-26T23:05:50Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> I’m the opposite way. I’m not a big fan of Millar and I find that his work is usually better when other people step in and dampen down his excesses.

This - Millar has some good ideas ruined by his juvenile tastes/humor; he does better when someone steps in.

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