# Kickstarter to prove that God exists.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kickstarter-to-prove-that-god-exists/729279>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [August 29, 2015, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kickstarter-to-prove-that-god-exists/729279 "2015-08-29T13:36:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2015, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kickstarter-to-prove-that-god-exists/729279/21 "2015-08-29T22:46:27Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> That’s exactly what I thought. To take it a step further, how can he believe that evolution exists on small scale such as from a maggot to a fly, but not believe that humans came from single celled organisms…like gametes/zygotes/sperms/eggs?

Hush. He’s very religious and thinks the stork brought him. Nothing to do with that nasty sex stuff.

$6.66 is probably enough for him to go to a used book store and buy a book on evolution so he has a clue about what he is going to disprove.

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2015, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kickstarter-to-prove-that-god-exists/729279/22 "2015-08-29T23:06:02Z")

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To be fair to this dude, I thoroughly enjoyed the course of study required to obtain my own mater’s degree.

I might go back to school for another.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2015, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kickstarter-to-prove-that-god-exists/729279/23 "2015-08-29T23:06:24Z")

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I’m thinking he should start by searching for the missing link in the most logical place to find it. Florida.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2015, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kickstarter-to-prove-that-god-exists/729279/24 "2015-08-30T00:54:36Z")

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“…I am not out to promote a region or way of life. I just believe there has got to be a better answer than all in compassing evolution. Thank you for reading this…”

Thank oG he’s not promoting a region or something. “all in compassing”? I weep for proof-readers - I know my own writing is bad enough.

ASU has standards?

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2015, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kickstarter-to-prove-that-god-exists/729279/25 "2015-08-30T02:21:55Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> I’m intrigued by the [poster](http://flowingdata.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/animalsevolution_lg.jpg) he has on his site. It appears to be some kind of depiction of Haeckel’s recapitulation theories. I imagine the “self-sustaining longitudinal circles” have something to do with the arcs connecting the different “grades” of organization.
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> It’s fascinating how creationists think that all they have to do is disprove Darwin’s own findings, and the whole edifice of evolutionary biology constructed over the past 150 years will collapse.
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> ETA: The human couple in the upper left of the poster are looking suspiciously cozy for a scientific chart.

He don’t no nuttin about no Hakel or no recapitalization or nuttin. He choose that poster because of the title: “Die Evolution!”.

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**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2015, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kickstarter-to-prove-that-god-exists/729279/26 "2015-08-30T03:35:50Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> He don’t no nuttin about no Hakel or no recapitalization or nuttin. He choose that poster because of the title: “Die Evolution!”.

Oh my… I think you are right.  
Bwahahahahaha.

**Wipes tears**

Excuse me while I go to wring out my underwear.

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**Author:** ![April\_R](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@April\_R](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/April_R)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2015, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kickstarter-to-prove-that-god-exists/729279/27 "2015-08-30T03:48:32Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> I wonder how he got into a “Doctorial” program.
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> I also wonder what a “self-sustaining longitudinal circle” is.

That was driving me crazy. I’m glad someone else caught it, too.  
Doctoral!!!

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2015, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kickstarter-to-prove-that-god-exists/729279/28 "2015-08-30T22:08:49Z")

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> [@April\_R](#):
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> That was driving me crazy. I’m glad someone else caught it, too.  
> Doctoral!!!

No, he has it right. Once you go through the doctorial program, you get a PhiD.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2015, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kickstarter-to-prove-that-god-exists/729279/29 "2015-08-30T22:54:26Z")

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In the summer of 1982, I was enjoying my brand-new Yamaha 465. On a ride in the Carson City area, my kickstarter fell off, making starting the beast a real challenge. Naturally, the part was backordered, and it took months to get a new one. I had to cope. Luckily, I lived in a hilly area and was always able to get it going by bump starting. I was young and strong and could push it when I had to.

If I was somehow able to find that kickstarter now, I’d believe that god exists.

Maybe. 😃

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2015, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kickstarter-to-prove-that-god-exists/729279/30 "2015-08-30T22:55:50Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> Hush. He’s very religious and thinks the stork brought him. Nothing to do with that nasty sex stuff.
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> $6.66 is probably enough for him to go to a used book store and buy a book on evolution so he has a clue about what he is going to disprove.

The way kickstarter works is that you don’t get anything unless you reach the goal.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kickstarter-to-prove-that-god-exists/729279/31 "2015-08-31T01:07:07Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> It’s fascinating how creationists think that all they have to do is disprove Darwin’s own findings, and the whole edifice of evolutionary biology constructed over the past 150 years will collapse.

I have the theory that they believe that science works like in some bad horror tales were killing the “lead zombie” will cause all the rest to fall or to be cured.

I have seen that idea not only among creationists but among many other woo woo proponents, the most inconvenient research to them that appeared first to crush a cherished belief needs to be put down, regardless if many other papers confirmed the original research later.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kickstarter-to-prove-that-god-exists/729279/32 "2015-08-31T02:39:49Z")

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[A Mater’s degree, eh?](http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/8300000/Tow-Mater-disney-pixar-cars-8365921-1700-1100.jpg)

Sounds about right.

What DOESN’T sound right is that it’s taken this many posts for someone to contribute such an obvious image…

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kickstarter-to-prove-that-god-exists/729279/33 "2015-08-31T12:00:31Z")

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The thread title reminds me of these posts I made a decade ago on the Board:

> [@](#):
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> In \*\* [Fads and Fallacies] In the Name of Science\*\*, Martin Gardner recalls two famouly bad patents. One of these is a “Pedagogical Device” consisting of “two intertwined helices” that serve the purpose of “demonstrating the existence of God”. I have to look this one up again, now that you have easy internet access to the patent files. I’d love to know how two springs prove the existence of God.
> 
> Bear in mind that This Actually Got a Patent. Makes me less impressed with mine.

> [@](#):
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> Found it! It’s Socrates Scholfield’s Feb. 1914 patent, #1,087,186. You can search for it and view it on the US Patent Office Database. You can also look up the Psionic Hieronymous Maxchine (#2,482,773, granted 1949)

> **[Worst Invention Ever...](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=363831)**
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> Even worse than the Jump to Conclusions Mat, it’s The Beeping Wallet. What’s it do you ask? It beeps, every 20 seconds, when you take a credit card (or such) out of it. And it continues to beep until you replace the card, or for up to 5 minutes. ...

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kickstarter-to-prove-that-god-exists/729279/34 "2015-08-31T14:20:13Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> He choose that poster because of the title: “Die Evolution!”.

That is just German for ‘The Evolution’.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kickstarter-to-prove-that-god-exists/729279/35 "2015-08-31T14:42:04Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> I’m thinking that’s a home-grown mater’s degree.

In Science!!!  
C’mon, I can’t be the only one who thought that.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kickstarter-to-prove-that-god-exists/729279/36 "2015-08-31T14:44:54Z")

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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> That is just German for ‘The Evolution’.

I know. It was a joke.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kickstarter-to-prove-that-god-exists/729279/37 "2015-08-31T15:01:19Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> I know. It was a joke.

Really? I didn’t know. I was trying to make a Simpsons joke.

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**Author:** ![HoneyBadgerDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honeybadgerdc/32/1033_2.png) [@HoneyBadgerDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HoneyBadgerDC)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kickstarter-to-prove-that-god-exists/729279/38 "2015-08-31T15:01:48Z")

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As far as I know even most major churches accept evolution. No different that trying to prove the world is flat.

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**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kickstarter-to-prove-that-god-exists/729279/39 "2015-08-31T15:41:10Z")

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> [@HoneyBadgerDC](#):
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> As far as I know even most major churches accept evolution. No different that trying to prove the world is flat.

No, I’d significantly prefer him trying to prove the world is flat by a sea voyage: that way, even if he were right, he’d just fall off the edge and we’d be rid of him anyways.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2015, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kickstarter-to-prove-that-god-exists/729279/40 "2015-09-01T00:43:52Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> The way kickstarter works is that you don’t get anything unless you reach the goal.

Ten to one he doesn’t know that. Doesn’t seem a knowledgeable fellow.

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