# Kid gloves for woke posters **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [November 30, 2020, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-gloves-for-woke-posters/926840 "2020-11-30T17:59:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2020, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-gloves-for-woke-posters/926840/102 "2020-12-02T17:16:36Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > BTW: I think Slacker had a very long leash. So many warnings. But, was he even a right winger? Politically he seemed like a racist moderate. I don’t think all racists are right wingers. I think he identified as a progressive, despite having so many positions that were not remotely progressive. All right, I rescind my example. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2020, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-gloves-for-woke-posters/926840/103 "2020-12-02T17:18:25Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > Well, this would be the time for all the conservatives to come forward and present their evidence that liberals are moderated unfairly. I think we’ve established pretty clearly that **Shodan** got away with murder. It’s not so much about the moderators themselves as it is that a comment that is contrary to the majority is naturally likelier to get people flagging it than vice versa. It’s like being a Red Sox fan on a general-baseball forum that is 80% Yankees. “The Red Sox are a cheating, thuggish organization” - nothing; the poster is just telling the truth. “The Yankees are a cheating, thuggish organization” - flag and get the mods’ attention; the poster must be trolling with disingenuous intent! ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2020, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-gloves-for-woke-posters/926840/104 "2020-12-02T17:22:08Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > It’s not so much about the moderators themselves as it is that a comment that is contrary to the majority is naturally likelier to get people flagging it than vice versa. It’s like being a Red Sox fan on a general-baseball forum that is 80% Yankees. This seems like the most likely explanation. So the solution is to flag more liberal stuff that crosses the line. I don’t often flag things even when I disagree with them, so maybe some of us have to be more vigilant. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2020, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-gloves-for-woke-posters/926840/105 "2020-12-02T17:23:27Z")
Remember if you do flag a post, please use [Use Something Else and explain it](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/request-when-you-flag-a-post-please-dont-use-the-inappropriate-or-off-topic-options-use-something-else-and-explain-or-its-spam/925239/17) ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2020, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-gloves-for-woke-posters/926840/106 "2020-12-02T18:06:38Z")
> [@damuriajashi](#): > > And it’s not just his repetitive use of the word ignorant to insult posters under the veil that an accusation of ignorance is not an insult. > > He doesn’t even use the concept of argument from ignorance correctly. Well, as pointed out by the mods, this is not as you think. The pattern me and others noted has been to dismiss the evidence and testimony presented, specially ignored by [ZosterSandstorm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZosterSandstorm) in that thread, some there do think that only opinions are enough to counter all people in academia that supports diversity, hence the observation that there is a bit of mistrust of Asian intellectuals going on in the effort to dismiss even **weak** changes to increase diversity in elite schools. Even evidence found by the Attorney General from Virginia regarding the discrimination of Blacks and Hispanics trying to get in the elite school is dismissed only with opinions. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2020, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-gloves-for-woke-posters/926840/107 "2020-12-02T18:09:27Z")
**Lets not bring that argument into this thread.** ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2020, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-gloves-for-woke-posters/926840/108 "2020-12-02T18:28:35Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > It’s unclear what’s going on there anyway. Careful Googling shows me that futanari is a term for androgynous or hermaphroditic porn. Later MrDibble describes something (the same thing?) as “fantasizing about teenage girls.” _I’m not gonna go down that rabbit hole to investigate the veracity of that claim, nor do I particularly want someone else to do it for me._ But those come across as very very different things to me, and whatever the crappiness of shaming someone for the former may be, it’s okay to shame a grown-ass man for talking creepily about teenage girls. That’s probably wise. Further googling would probably reveal that _apocryphal_ is American South African for _I don’t believe your claim that you really have that fetish_, which kinda lets the air out of the “shaming people for their sexuality” accusation. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2020, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-gloves-for-woke-posters/926840/109 "2020-12-02T18:30:52Z")
Why is it “creepy” for a 21 yo man to date or marry a 19yo woman? That’s pretty damn common. Adults are adults, they get to make their own choices in life. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2020, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-gloves-for-woke-posters/926840/110 "2020-12-02T18:32:38Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > > [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > > > Well, this would be the time for all the conservatives to come forward and present their evidence that liberals are moderated unfairly. I think we’ve established pretty clearly that **Shodan** got away with murder. > > It’s not so much about the moderators themselves as it is that a comment that is contrary to the majority is naturally likelier to get people flagging it than vice versa. It’s like being a Red Sox fan on a general-baseball forum that is 80% Yankees. > > “The Red Sox are a cheating, thuggish organization” - nothing; the poster is just telling the truth. > > “The Yankees are a cheating, thuggish organization” - flag and get the mods’ attention; the poster must be trolling with disingenuous intent! How do they moderate “American League teams aren’t really playing baseball except when their pitchers take their turn at bat, so fuck both the Yankees _and_ the Red Sox.”? Probably threadshitting, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2020, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-gloves-for-woke-posters/926840/111 "2020-12-02T18:38:46Z")
We allow that in the Game Room though. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2020, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-gloves-for-woke-posters/926840/112 "2020-12-02T18:46:58Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > If they are 18 or 19, it’s OK. I mean they are adults. Come on, man. If they are adults, they are not teenage **girls**. Don’t look for ways to nitpick what people say. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2020, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-gloves-for-woke-posters/926840/113 "2020-12-02T18:47:12Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > We allow that in the Game Room though. 'Preciate that, but I don’t think that would make it worth my time to wander over there… ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2020, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-gloves-for-woke-posters/926840/114 "2020-12-02T18:52:14Z")
Then use a better term like “underage”. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2020, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-gloves-for-woke-posters/926840/115 "2020-12-02T18:56:40Z")
whatever dude ---
**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2020, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-gloves-for-woke-posters/926840/116 "2020-12-02T19:13:02Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > **weak** changes to increase diversity in elite schools. Going from a standardized test to a lottery is not a “weak” change but we can keep that discussion in that other thread. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2020, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-gloves-for-woke-posters/926840/117 "2020-12-03T04:27:41Z")
I said nothing about that. I just said that being creepy, in and of itself, is shameful. ---
**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-gloves-for-woke-posters/926840/119 "2020-12-04T13:53:30Z")
In this post What Exit moderates the thread and calls out both GIGO and myself. > [@California Prop 16 (reinstating affirmative action) fails](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-prop-16-reinstating-affirmative-action-fails/926439/59): > > Modnote: This is for both GIGObuster & damuriajashi and anyone else. You’re both making this personal and pushing the border of attacking the poster. No warnings as you’re both addressing the posts as your doing this and the insults are mostly passive and more general but inclusive of each other. But enough. So to all, no more carefully worded swipes at other posts please. Remember Attack the Post and not the Poster. I had complained about GIGO’s posts before but somehow this is when the moderation happens. GIGO’s posts are frequently disrespectful and bordering on insulting and when it is pointed out nothing happens or the moderation goes both ways. In the OP thread GIGO engages in this sort of crappy behavior early and often and it isn’t until others respond to him in kind that moderation occurs. This is the sort of thing that creates complaints about uneven moderation. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-gloves-for-woke-posters/926840/120 "2020-12-04T13:59:46Z")
I modnoted both of you specifically. GIGO’s post are indeed disrespectful and bordering on insulting. Very close to too much. But you actually went past that with the last line of this post. (My Bolding) > [@California Prop 16 (reinstating affirmative action) fails](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-prop-16-reinstating-affirmative-action-fails/926439/56): > > I’m not listening to anybody the way you seem to be implying. I’m not the one that can’t present their own arguments and has to resort to serially linking the opinions of others. > > Lots of folks think woke left are idiots and detrimental to a liberal society. > > **If you can get out of the woke left echo chamber,** Now I feel you’ve been getting provoked by GIGO. So the note wasn’t even aimed at you. I’m asking both of you to take it down a notch or better yet not make it personal at all. You both are spending far more time debating the posts in the thread so I was hoping to just get the thread clear of the personal conflict. Let me add, thank you for taking the question here. ---
**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-gloves-for-woke-posters/926840/121 "2020-12-04T14:56:47Z")
Oh crap, I thought I had deleted that last line. There was a bunch of other stuff after that that I did delete (thankfully). I withdrawn my whine. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2020, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-gloves-for-woke-posters/926840/122 "2020-12-04T15:01:23Z")
Really no problem. I’m glad we could clear it up. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-gloves-for-woke-posters/926840.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-gloves-for-woke-posters/926840.md?page=7)