# Kid Nation 12/12 "We've All Decided To Go Mad!" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 13, 2007, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-nation-12-12-weve-all-decided-to-go-mad/429802 "2007-12-13T02:18:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-nation-12-12-weve-all-decided-to-go-mad/429802/1 "2007-12-13T02:18:39Z")
(With apologies to Paul Anka and Frank Sinatra) And so, the show begins With the job board ablaze in fire The kids, they put it out But then they soon begin to tire They learn it all was planned For the job board is now thrown away From here, for these three days They’ll do it their way. The kids, they start to loot All of the stores of all their plunder And soon, the whole darn town Has gone insane and torn asunder But Zach and DK know That this whole plan has torn it astray So they and the council plan To do it their way. The kids clean the town up And then Jon Karsh, he calls them and shouts To tell the Council that The last Gold Star will be handed out It’s hard, it’s so hard that It brings to tears poor little DK But then, over to Zach It’s given away. The girls of Yellow side They want to sleep with chickens it’s true And their friend Emilie She wants to sleep alongside them too She can’t so she is told She throws a fit, and then goes astray But soon is comforted By clever Migle. A party will be had The last challenge is to get ready Build tables, clean the trash And make a boatload of spaghetti The kids, they get it done And just when they’re about to par-tay Their parents come along On this final day. And now, just one more thing Before they all hang up their collars Just give out three Gold Stars Each one is fifty thousand dollars To hard-working Sophia And kind Morgan they’re gave away And then, a final one To a changed Migle. What are these kids? What are they not? If not themselves, then they have naught. On this whole show, I was impressed I give my thanks to CBS And to the cast, they had a blast And did it theeeeeeeeeeir way! ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-nation-12-12-weve-all-decided-to-go-mad/429802/2 "2007-12-13T02:36:34Z")
Bravo, again! 😃 I want some follow-up. Some of these kids definitely gained some confidence that might change their lives, but I wonder about the kids we never saw. There was another new one tonight – I’ve already forgotten who it was. What happened when they watched the show and saw the same 10-15 kids get all the attention? I wouldn’t mind if CBS wanted to do this again, and I’d like to see the same kids try again (without that stupid journal). A year is a long time when you’re ten. Think they’ll do it again? ---
**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-nation-12-12-weve-all-decided-to-go-mad/429802/3 "2007-12-13T02:37:54Z")
[QUOTE=AuntiePam] Think they’ll do it again? [/QUOTE] CBS had auditions for a Kid Nation 2, but they haven’t greenlit the show yet. All we know is if there will be a second, it will be filmed outside the United States. ---
**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-nation-12-12-weve-all-decided-to-go-mad/429802/4 "2007-12-13T02:43:58Z")
It just sucked that Morgan and Sophia got the super gold stars (deservedly) but Laurel didn’t. C’mon, that Migle girl? She was nowhere for 40 days and all of the sudden she is best of the best? bleh. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-nation-12-12-weve-all-decided-to-go-mad/429802/5 "2007-12-13T03:05:10Z")
Yep, Laurel should have gotten it. I’m surprised they even considered Mike but it was nice that they did. It was nice of them to give Zach a star, but how insincere was his speech, after he almost begged for a star last week. Or the week before, whenever. Taylor and her gang and their rejection of Emilie almost made me ashamed to be female. I’d forgotten that little girls clique up at an early age. ---
**Author:** ![Noelq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noelq/32/16438_2.png) [@Noelq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noelq)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-nation-12-12-weve-all-decided-to-go-mad/429802/6 "2007-12-13T19:00:37Z")
I really enjoyed the finale. It looks like they did a good job, with only a bit of “lord of the flies” involved. It was also really interesting to see Greg evolve from being a young teenage punk, to a spokesman for the tribe and surrogate big brother to them. It was neat to watch Greg as Zack broke down - you could see him wanting to hug the kid, but couldn’t do it probably due to peer pressure, but as soon as Zack was done with his speech, he went right to Greg for a hug. I enjoyed this show, and I’d really like to see a “year later” follow-up to see how the kids are doing. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-nation-12-12-weve-all-decided-to-go-mad/429802/7 "2007-12-13T19:16:29Z")
[QUOTE=mobo85] CBS had auditions for a Kid Nation 2, but they haven’t greenlit the show yet. All we know is if there will be a second, it will be filmed outside the United States. [/QUOTE] Really? Because of the flap over child labor? I’d love to see kids from other countries do something like this. What would they do for the setting? ---
**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-nation-12-12-weve-all-decided-to-go-mad/429802/8 "2007-12-14T00:57:50Z")
[QUOTE=AuntiePam] Really? Because of the flap over child labor? I’d love to see kids from other countries do something like this. [/QUOTE] Pretty much, yeah. But it won’t be foreign kids- the audition sign-up sheet said specifically that potential contestants must be U.S. residents. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-nation-12-12-weve-all-decided-to-go-mad/429802/9 "2007-12-14T01:23:45Z")
Oh for pete’s sake. Do the producers not know that millions (?) of kids outside the US speak English? Or do they worry that foreign kids might not be so malleable? ---
**Author:** ![JpnDude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/838e76/32.png) [@JpnDude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JpnDude)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-nation-12-12-weve-all-decided-to-go-mad/429802/10 "2007-12-14T04:28:10Z")
[QUOTE=mobo85] (With apologies to Paul Anka and Frank Sinatra) And so, the show begins With the job board ablaze in fire The kids, they put it out But then they soon begin to tire They learn it all was planned For the job board is now thrown away From here, for these three days They’ll do it their way. (Mobo85’s marvelous rendition…snip snip) [/QUOTE] Being a Sinatra fan and a Kid Nation viewer, this is one of the best posts I have ever read on SDMB! Fan-PHREAKEN-tastic **mobo85!** 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Szlater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Szlater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Szlater)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-nation-12-12-weve-all-decided-to-go-mad/429802/11 "2007-12-14T12:35:05Z")
[QUOTE=AuntiePam] Oh for pete’s sake. Do the producers not know that millions (?) of kids outside the US speak English? Or do they worry that foreign kids might not be so malleable? [/QUOTE] There is a show over here called “Shipwrecked”, where late teens (16-19, IIRC) are dropped off on a desert island with some basic supplies and left to fend for themselves (at least in the original run, it’s been revived as more of a competition with cash prizes, but I’ve not watched it). In the third series they included teens from the US and Australia. As I remember it, the Americans didn’t fit in, and there were constant arguments. ---
**Author:** ![psiekier](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psiekier/32/116_2.png) [@psiekier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psiekier)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2007, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-nation-12-12-weve-all-decided-to-go-mad/429802/12 "2007-12-18T21:56:23Z")
[QUOTE=Szlater] There is a show over here called “Shipwrecked”, where late teens (16-19, IIRC) are dropped off on a desert island with some basic supplies and left to fend for themselves (at least in the original run, it’s been revived as more of a competition with cash prizes, but I’ve not watched it). In the third series they included teens from the US and Australia. As I remember it, the Americans didn’t fit in, and there were constant arguments. [/QUOTE] [That’s because some of the kids got useful items like a knife, gun or bulletproof vest, and other kids got stupid things like a fork or an ordinary dartboard dart.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_Royale) I’m interested to see where Sophia will be 5-10 years from now. Despite her never holding a council position, she seemed to have the most leadership potential and quite a bit of practical (un)common sense to her.