# Kid screams nonstop for 8-hour flight **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [February 17, 2018, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-screams-nonstop-for-8-hour-flight/808982 "2018-02-17T06:01:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-screams-nonstop-for-8-hour-flight/808982/41 "2018-02-17T22:43:16Z")
Something very wrong with that kid. That is not just a naughty child or a child who has been set poor boundaries. NO normal child screams like that for that long. And if the parent/s ever decide to take him on a plane again, he should have MAJOR sedation before setting foot on the tarmac. Not just Benadryl. Show any doc this video and I’m sure they’d happily prescribe The Demon something to shut him up and knock him out. Fuck, I’d had happily strangled that child…thank the stars I wasn’t on the flight. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-screams-nonstop-for-8-hour-flight/808982/42 "2018-02-17T22:50:11Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > The kid is ferrell. > [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > I’d watch that movie. Happy to oblige: > **[Kicking & Screaming (2005 film)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kicking_%26_Screaming_(2005_film))** > > Kicking & Screaming is a 2005 American sports comedy film directed by Jesse Dylan and written by Leo Benvenuti and Steve Rudnick. The film stars Will Ferrell and Robert Duvall as a father and son who exploit their own sons' soccer teams to try to beat the other. Mike Ditka, Kate Walsh, and Josh Hutcherson also star. It was released on May 13, 2005, to mixed reviews and grossed $56 million worldwide. > Phil Weston is an average person who endured his father Buck Weston's over-competitiveness throug... ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-screams-nonstop-for-8-hour-flight/808982/43 "2018-02-17T22:54:19Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > No Guin, I wasn’t disparaging people with this disorder. But children with that or on the spectrum need special handling. And of course everyone is different. My daughters oldest child (3) has just been diagnosed. He is definately hard to control. She spends alot of time working with him. And teaching him correct behaviours. It is a hard road for parents, this Mom isn’t doing her homework. > Then again he may have been on a sugar high. SOMETHING was wrong. That is easy to see. Oh, it’s cool, I didn’t think you were. 😉 Just saying that this seems like something more severe than ADHD. Either way, Mom dropped the ball somewhere, and it’s not fair to the people on the plane. ---
**Author:** ![thirdname](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d07c76/32.png) [@thirdname](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thirdname)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2018, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-screams-nonstop-for-8-hour-flight/808982/44 "2018-02-18T00:07:42Z")
Would somebody shut up that damn chicken? ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2018, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-screams-nonstop-for-8-hour-flight/808982/45 "2018-02-18T00:40:46Z")
Some passengers on that flight got to sit near [this guy](https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/pilot-forced-make-emergency-landing-12038181#ICID=sharebar_facebook) on the next leg of their journey. ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2018, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-screams-nonstop-for-8-hour-flight/808982/46 "2018-02-18T00:51:10Z")
Why aren’t the mods merging these [threads](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=849308)? 😃 > [@thirdname](#): > > Would somebody shut up that damn chicken? Heh. Wonder how **M\*\*\*\*A** ny will get that until you po **S** t t **H** e link. ---
**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2018, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-screams-nonstop-for-8-hour-flight/808982/47 "2018-02-18T01:00:40Z")
> [@thirdname](#): > > Would somebody shut up that damn chicken? If only _Rieman_n and _Guinastasia_ had kept out of your post’s way. ---
**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2018, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-screams-nonstop-for-8-hour-flight/808982/48 "2018-02-18T01:05:24Z")
Everyone that is making comments against the parents can burn straight in hell for all I am concerned. I had it happen to me with my daughter on a flight back from France to Boston. She screamed the entire time on an overnight flight when she was barely 2 years old. I did everything possible to get her to stop but it just didn’t work. I finally just commandeered a lavatory with the permission of the flight attendants and kept her there over the Atlantic for hours to minimize the inconvenience to the other passengers but I couldn’t eliminate it. I was the most stressed person on the entire flight. We took her straight to the doctor as soon as possible after landing and it turned out that she had a dangerous bowel obstruction. One gigantic poop later fixed it. She really was in a lot of pain and that was the only way she could communicate it at the time. People with small children need to travel for all kinds of reasons too. Some of those children scream for various reasons and it probably has nothing to do with parenting. The parents are probably the ones most concerned about it but that doesn’t mean that they can stop it on demand. ---
**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2018, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-screams-nonstop-for-8-hour-flight/808982/49 "2018-02-18T01:26:10Z")
Just to be clear, that particular child may have been out of bounds and may not have responsible parents but my point is that it is possible for something similar to happen with even the best parents. Young kids and airline flights don’t tend to mix well but they still need to go places too. It isn’t a completely solvable problem because you can’t educate every new parent with toddlers on what to do even if there is a solution at all. However, the airlines already know about the problem. I have flown by myself with my two daughter since they were very young. It didn’t matter what seats I picked when I bought the tickets. They would usually be reassigned to the very back of the plane which is the cattle area for parents with kids. I didn’t mind. It is that much closer to the restrooms and gives you free access to the flight attendants. For flights with open seating, I always pick a seat with a young child in the middle because it gives me more room. The vast majority of them aren’t a problem and, when they are, I know how to tune it out. When you have had two children with colic, you can read a book peacefully with anyone screaming in your face. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2018, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-screams-nonstop-for-8-hour-flight/808982/50 "2018-02-18T01:34:53Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#): > > Everyone that is making comments against the parents can burn straight in hell for all I am concerned. I had it happen to me with my daughter on a flight back from France to Boston. She screamed the entire time on an overnight flight when she was barely 2 years old. I did everything possible to get her to stop but it just didn’t work. > > I finally just commandeered a lavatory with the permission of the flight attendants and kept her there over the Atlantic for hours to minimize the inconvenience to the other passengers but I couldn’t eliminate it. I was the most stressed person on the entire flight. We took her straight to the doctor as soon as possible after landing and it turned out that she had a dangerous bowel obstruction. One gigantic poop later fixed it. She really was in a lot of pain and that was the only way she could communicate it at the time. > > People with small children need to travel for all kinds of reasons too. Some of those children scream for various reasons and it probably has nothing to do with parenting. The parents are probably the ones most concerned about it but that doesn’t mean that they can stop it on demand. You obviously didn’t watch the video, because there is nothing medically wrong with this kid. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2018, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-screams-nonstop-for-8-hour-flight/808982/51 "2018-02-18T01:38:49Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#): > > Everyone that is making comments against the parents can burn straight in hell for all I am concerned. I had it happen to me with my daughter on a flight back from France to Boston. She screamed the entire time on an overnight flight when she was barely 2 years old. I did everything possible to get her to stop but it just didn’t work. > > I finally just commandeered a lavatory with the permission of the flight attendants and kept her there over the Atlantic for hours to minimize the inconvenience to the other passengers but I couldn’t eliminate it. I was the most stressed person on the entire flight. We took her straight to the doctor as soon as possible after landing and it turned out that she had a dangerous bowel obstruction. One gigantic poop later fixed it. She really was in a lot of pain and that was the only way she could communicate it at the time. > > People with small children need to travel for all kinds of reasons too. Some of those children scream for various reasons and it probably has nothing to do with parenting. The parents are probably the ones most concerned about it but that doesn’t mean that they can stop it on demand. I get that, but the kid in the video is not in any kind of pain. The screaming is just obnoxious. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2018, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-screams-nonstop-for-8-hour-flight/808982/52 "2018-02-18T01:39:58Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Watched it. The kid isn’t that young. The FA’s should have demanded that he be strapped into his seat for one thing. FA’s do have authority, quite a bit actually. The kid is ferrell. I wondered about that too. And why is he permitted to run up and down the aisle? Aren’t the attendance busy getting food and drinks and pillows and whatnot to passengers? ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2018, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-screams-nonstop-for-8-hour-flight/808982/53 "2018-02-18T02:59:49Z")
**Shagnasty** , watch the freaking video. The kid is racing up and down the aisles, climbing on seats and screaming bloody blue murder, while the mother just ignores him. With the exception of a “calm down, honey”, she doesn’t do shit. This was totally different from what happened with your daughter. YOU did the right thing. She didn’t. > [@vivalostwages](#): > > I wondered about that too. And why is he permitted to run up and down the aisle? Aren’t the attendance busy getting food and drinks and pillows and whatnot to passengers? If that plane had hit turbulance, I can only imagine what would’ve happened to him. Plus at one point, he’s banging on the overhead compartment – what if it came open and something fell out? He could’ve gotten hurt, someone else could’ve gotten hurt, etc. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2018, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-screams-nonstop-for-8-hour-flight/808982/54 "2018-02-18T03:09:01Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > They needed stronger stuff. Demonic screams = an exorcist. I was surprised the kid’s head didn’t start spinning. ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2018, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-screams-nonstop-for-8-hour-flight/808982/55 "2018-02-18T03:23:14Z")
That would make a really rough flight. That’s got to be some sort of autism or other disorder. I teach English to (among others) kindergarten classes, and there are some autistic kids who are like that. There are several children who could be like that at times. Those who suggest stricter disciple would solve that haven’t been around autistic children. One thing that my wife and I found when our kids were babies and toddlers (younger than this kid) and would cry on buses or airplanes is that I got a lot more sympathy as a father trying to handle it than my wife did as the mother. It could very well be that the quickest way for the child to calm down is for the parent to remain calm and steady, but the down side is that it looks like you’re not doing anything. I don’t know why she didn’t explain it to the people around. Thankfully we didn’t have this level of child to deal with. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2018, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-screams-nonstop-for-8-hour-flight/808982/56 "2018-02-18T03:25:26Z")
So you think she should have just let the kid run wild, even though he was a danger to himself and others? ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2018, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-screams-nonstop-for-8-hour-flight/808982/57 "2018-02-18T03:27:53Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > And why is the suggestion that media addiction had a role? The mom was asking about the wifi, but then the behavior continued throughout the flight. I wondered this too. Checked out his instagram page he linked to the video. He has photos of himself with friends doing outdoor stuff with full on forehead ashes on ash Friday. Most photos are kayaking, camping. But it’s ironic that he used media to film the event. Poor guy and poor passengers! Hope the kid gets help. ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2018, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-screams-nonstop-for-8-hour-flight/808982/58 "2018-02-18T03:28:31Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Just imagine that kid in 12 years. The adult version will be much worse. I have a second cousin who was like that as a child. On one visit he knocked over the bookcase in our living room and threw a brick at my head, screaming the entire time. His mother smiled and said “Isn’t it wonderful that he knows how to express himself.” The kid grew up to be an orthodox rabbi. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2018, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-screams-nonstop-for-8-hour-flight/808982/59 "2018-02-18T03:29:31Z")
> [@TokyoBayer](#): > > \ It could very well be that the quickest way for the child to calm down is for the parent to remain calm and steady, but the down side is that it looks like you’re not doing anything. I don’t know why she didn’t explain it to the people around. > > Thankfully we didn’t have this level of child to deal with. I’d say that in this case, it was the slowest way. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2018, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-screams-nonstop-for-8-hour-flight/808982/60 "2018-02-18T03:48:48Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > Inexplicable and inexcusable. Maybe they could’ve locked mom and kid into one of the lavatories for the duration? Wouldn’t bother me if the kid were bound and gagged. > > How old do you think the kid is? 3 or 4? I’m shocked the attendants let the kid stand on the seats (or his mother), and run the aisles like that. Did the attendants say/do anything? If this was done by a drunken (or sober) adult, I could imagine the plane being turned around. > > Sorry, if you can’t control your beasts better than this, you should not be allowed on public conveyances. > > I wonder why the film quality is so bad. What kept the filmer from taking better images. And why are you unable to hear anyone say anything to/about the kid? > > And why is the suggestion that media addiction had a role? The mom was asking about the wifi, but then the behavior continued throughout the flight. That was just a comment made by the woman who took the video. I looked for other video but apparently no one else filmed it. Is it possible that this boy is autistic? Just asking. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-screams-nonstop-for-8-hour-flight/808982.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-screams-nonstop-for-8-hour-flight/808982.md?page=4)