# Kid toasts himself ala Jackass.  I say good

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-toasts-himself-ala-jackass-i-say-good/136471>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 12, 2002, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-toasts-himself-ala-jackass-i-say-good/136471 "2002-11-12T20:20:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ScoobyTX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@ScoobyTX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ScoobyTX)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2002, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-toasts-himself-ala-jackass-i-say-good/136471/41 "2002-11-13T22:09:25Z")

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According to the link in the OP, his “serious burns” are only first degree- nothing life threatening or even disfiguring. It is totally appropriate to laugh at this moron’s lack of judgement.

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**Author:** ![Waverly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/57b2e6/32.png) [@Waverly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waverly)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2002, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-toasts-himself-ala-jackass-i-say-good/136471/42 "2002-11-13T22:22:37Z")

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> \*Originally posted by MrVisible \*  
> And wishing someone dead so that you don’t have to pay a portion of their medical bills is pretty amazingly heartless, don’t ya think?

It depends, now doesn’t it? We aren’t talking about just anyone here, nor are we speaking of some innocent who has had an unfortunate accident. We are speaking specifically about some dumb-ass that intentionally set himself on fire as a gag. I see nothing wrong with wishing him great success in his misadventure and breaking out the s’mores.

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**Author:** ![unclviny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e274bd/32.png) [@unclviny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/unclviny)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2002, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-toasts-himself-ala-jackass-i-say-good/136471/43 "2002-11-13T22:24:55Z")

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oh god, kelvin is gonna get a drivers license soon, god please save my soul because my ass is in jeopardy!

unclviny

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2002, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-toasts-himself-ala-jackass-i-say-good/136471/44 "2002-11-13T22:26:46Z")

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I don’t think ridiculing him is cruel at all. Anways **gobear** summed it up quite nicely.

I bet he’ll be staying away from barbecues for awhile, hehe.

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**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2002, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-toasts-himself-ala-jackass-i-say-good/136471/45 "2002-11-14T00:11:12Z")

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Sorry for the “me too” post, but I fully agree with Mr Visible.  
There’s nothing to laugh about in this story. At worst one could think about the stupidity of people in general and teens in particular, and sigh, but it’s definitely _not_ fun. The boy is in pain on a hospital bed, and either you guy lack empathy, either you don’t fully realize the situation.

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**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2002, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-toasts-himself-ala-jackass-i-say-good/136471/46 "2002-11-14T00:14:40Z")

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> \*Originally posted by gobear \*  
> \*\*\*\*Would you feel as sympathetic for Kelvin if he killed other people in a car accident because he was being as reckless with a car as he was with fire? \*\*

In this case, I certainly wouldn’t be very sympathetic, especially since I’m particulary irritated by reckless drivers. But it still wouldn’t be fun in any way…

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**Author:** ![MrVisible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@MrVisible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrVisible)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2002, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-toasts-himself-ala-jackass-i-say-good/136471/47 "2002-11-14T00:16:31Z")

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> \*Originally posted by gobear \*  
> **Mr. Visible** , the universe is a heartless place. The laws of physics and chemistry do not care about good intentions or pleas of youth and inexperience; if you douse yourself with chemicals and then set them on fire, you will burn. That’s pretty damn harsh, I know, but that’s the way the universe works.

I suppose “If a kid does something stupid and gets hurt, adults will make fun of him” is a natural law, too.

The kid did something stupid, and the playground bullies stand around and mock, and tell themselves it’s part of the social order, or the way the universe works. When in fact, it can be directly attributed to being a jerk.

What’s funny is the fact that everybody is saying the kid’s blaming someone else for his actions, when he’s not. But nobody here is gonna come out and say “I like making fun of stupid children who hurt themselves because I’m an asshole.” Instead, you’re all blaming something else, and justifying your actions by saying that what the kid did was really dumb, so you have a right to wish death on him.

I’ll pick stupid people over cruel ones, any day.

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**Author:** ![Waverly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/57b2e6/32.png) [@Waverly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waverly)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2002, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-toasts-himself-ala-jackass-i-say-good/136471/48 "2002-11-14T00:53:37Z")

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I always found cruel people more interesting than dullards.

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**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2002, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-toasts-himself-ala-jackass-i-say-good/136471/49 "2002-11-14T01:39:38Z")

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I’d just like to point out again that this moron only got [first-degree burns](http://www.burnsurvivor.com/burn_types_first.html):

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> First-degree burns are red and very sensitive to touch, and the skin will appear blanched when light pressure is applied. **First-degree burns involve minimal tissue damage** and they involve the epidermis (skin surface). These burns affect the outer-layer of skin causing pain, redness and swelling. **Sunburn is a good example of a first-degree burn.**

[bolding mine]  
Hospital bed? Pain and suffering? Permanent disfigurement? Not even close to a Darwin award. The ER probably just gave him some lotion and sent him packing.

“Setting myself on fire with rubbing alcohol was cool! For my next trick, I’ll use gasoline!”

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**Author:** ![LolaBaby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d2c977/32.png) [@LolaBaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LolaBaby)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2002, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-toasts-himself-ala-jackass-i-say-good/136471/50 "2002-11-14T01:59:27Z")

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I don’t wish death on him, nor am I laughing at him, nor do I care if he does or doesn’t sue Jackass.

All I know, is that when I was **5 years old** (maybe even 3 years old), I knew fire=burn=owwee.

This kid is 15 (as if we all don’t know that already).

I don’t have much sympathy for the kid.

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**Author:** ![Gomez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d78d45/32.png) [@Gomez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gomez)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2002, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-toasts-himself-ala-jackass-i-say-good/136471/51 "2002-11-14T03:33:59Z")

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**Mr Visible:**

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> I suppose “If a kid does something stupid and gets hurt, adults will make fun of him” is a natural law, too.

How can I put this…yes.

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> The kid did something stupid, and the playground bullies stand around and mock, and tell themselves it’s part of the social order, or the way the universe works. When in fact, it can be directly attributed to being a jerk.

No, the kid did not do ‘something stupid’. He **Set Himself on _FIRE!!_** Not only did he set himself on fire, he set himself on fire apparently because of what he _thought might_ be in a TV show he liked. Screw the playground bullies man, I’m sure the worm eatin’ circus geeks used to snicker behind that kids back in high school too. Hell, if we can’t laugh at this dude, who the hell _can_ we laugh at? No-one? Fuck that, dude, life’s too grim as it is.

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> What’s funny is the fact that everybody is saying the kid’s blaming someone else for his actions, when he’s not. But nobody here is gonna come out and say “I like making fun of stupid children who hurt themselves because I’m an asshole.”

A-hem. I like making fun of stupid **adolescents** who should have known better before they graduated kindergarten when they injure themselves in pursuits so moronic they give those of us who do know better migraines from _laughing so damn hard_ at their ridiculous antics.

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> I’ll pick stupid people over cruel ones, any day.

Fair enough, but don’t complain next time you have one over for dinner and your house burns down 'cos he tried to test the mains socket out with his tongue and his flaming coiffure caught the drapes. 😃

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**Author:** ![robertliguori](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/46a35a/32.png) [@robertliguori](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robertliguori)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2002, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-toasts-himself-ala-jackass-i-say-good/136471/52 "2002-11-14T03:37:52Z")

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For the record: I like making fun of stupid children who hurt themselves because I’m an asshole. Actually, I like making fun of stupid people of all ages, regardless of the consequences. The hurting-themselves is just the universe laughing with me. And yes, I’m an asshole.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2002, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-toasts-himself-ala-jackass-i-say-good/136471/53 "2002-11-14T05:28:44Z")

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Well, when I was a kid, I used to light alcohol on my hands pretty regularly, because that sort of thing seems pretty amusing when you’re in your early teens. Used to imitate “fire-breathers” with varying degrees of success, which is probably stupider.

I don’t understand why people are so quick to blame “Jackass!” lately. It’s not like they called the program “Really cool guy who you should emulate, if possible!”

It never occurred to me to blame “That’s Incredible!” after I had that horrible fiasco with the “Beard of Bees” – after all, they warned me not to try it at home… 😃

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**Author:** ![Seven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Seven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seven)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2002, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-toasts-himself-ala-jackass-i-say-good/136471/54 "2002-11-14T08:27:03Z")

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> \*Originally posted by spooje \*  
> **It angers me that ‘_Jackass_’ was brought up though. It’s a symptom of the problem in our society. Nobody wants take responsibility for their own actions, everybody looks for that someone else who is ‘to blame’.**

Yup.

when I was around 7 or 8 two kids across the street decided to “catch a car”. They tied a rope around their waists and each stood on one side of the street.

The car pulled one kid two blocks before the old woman in the car knew what was going on.

But, because this was 1976 (or around there) every one just summed it up to stupid kids and not to a movie or cartoon.

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**Author:** ![Waverly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/57b2e6/32.png) [@Waverly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waverly)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2002, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-toasts-himself-ala-jackass-i-say-good/136471/55 "2002-11-14T12:54:30Z")

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Psssst…  
Larry, gasoline is a better accelerant. 😉

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**Author:** ![El\_Elvis\_Rojo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@El\_Elvis\_Rojo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Elvis_Rojo)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2002, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-toasts-himself-ala-jackass-i-say-good/136471/56 "2002-11-14T13:21:25Z")

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Personally, I feel anyone trying to immitate a show named **“JACKASS”** deserves to be hurt and ridiculed.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2002, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-toasts-himself-ala-jackass-i-say-good/136471/57 "2002-11-14T16:20:02Z")

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Here’s a more horrible scenario…

What if he next copies the Jackass sperm bank donation skit?

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2002, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-toasts-himself-ala-jackass-i-say-good/136471/58 "2002-11-14T16:26:23Z")

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I wouldn’t say what he did was stupid, it goes way beyond that. Somehow the act of videotaping it, seems to knock it up several notches on my imbecile gauge.

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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2002, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-toasts-himself-ala-jackass-i-say-good/136471/59 "2002-11-14T16:52:27Z")

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Stupid Jackass, taking all the credit. Rammstein was setting themselves on fire LONG before Johnny Knoxville ever did it.

😛

J

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**Author:** ![BoBettie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4af34b/32.png) [@BoBettie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BoBettie)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2002, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kid-toasts-himself-ala-jackass-i-say-good/136471/60 "2002-11-15T02:33:11Z")

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> It never occurred to me to blame “That’s Incredible!” after I had that horrible fiasco with the “Beard of Bees” – after all, they warned me not to try it at home…

Bwaaahaaaaaaaaaaa!!!  
::inhale::  
Bwaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

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