# Kidchameleon--Rape is not sexy. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 11, 2005, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kidchameleon-rape-is-not-sexy/325736 "2005-10-11T11:53:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2005, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kidchameleon-rape-is-not-sexy/325736/61 "2005-10-11T19:55:39Z")
> [@Otto](#): > > But do not the hypersensitive pussies have exactly the same right to cry foul as the rape-comics to make the joke? Sure, but the rape-comics are more interesting. Also, if enough of the hypersensitive pussies get together, they can affect the policies of their community (the SDMB, in this case) with regard to “offenseive” jokes. ---
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2005, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kidchameleon-rape-is-not-sexy/325736/62 "2005-10-11T19:58:14Z")
> [@VarlosZ](#): > > Sure, but the rape-comics are more interesting. And smarter… and better in the sack too! ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2005, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kidchameleon-rape-is-not-sexy/325736/63 "2005-10-11T20:14:37Z")
> [@VarlosZ](#): > > Sure, but the rape-comics are more interesting. And my hometown newspaper still refuses to get rid of _Family Circus._ ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2005, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kidchameleon-rape-is-not-sexy/325736/64 "2005-10-11T20:20:48Z")
> [@Hentor the Barbarian](#): > > Interesting! Let me try it on for size: I disagree with your effort to quash free speech, but I defend to the death your right to quash free speech. Oh for fuck’s sake. Not one damn thing I’ve said in this thread can be reasonably interpreted to mean I’m in favor of “quashing free speech.” And even if it could be, which, you know, it can’t, this is a privately-owned message board. There is no freedom of speech guarantee here. > [@HtB](#): > > Okay, you’re not exactly calling for censorship, right. I’m not calling for censorship at all, “exactly” or otherwise. Did I say anywhere that **kidchameleon** wasn’t within his perogative to make the post that he did? No. I said that his joke was gross and congratulated him for recognizing that his joke was gross rather than accusing the people who thought his joke was gross of not being able to take a joke. > [@HtB](#): > > I’ll still offer a spirited defense against name-calling, character assassination and pitting of those who attempt to make jokes that go awry. And sweetheart, no one’s saying that you shouldn’t. But if you’re going to start pretending like there’s some fundamental right involved, then you ought to recognize that the rights of those who say they’re disgusted by the joke are exactly equal to those of he who made it. > [@VarlosZ](#): > > Also, if enough of the hypersensitive pussies get together, they can affect the policies of their community (the SDMB, in this case) with regard to “offenseive” jokes. Then the rape-comics need to rally equal or greater support to their side. Let me know when the Mods start contemplating banning rape jokes; I’ll be there telling them they’re full of shit for even thinking about it. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2005, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kidchameleon-rape-is-not-sexy/325736/65 "2005-10-11T20:22:25Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > And my hometown newspaper still refuses to get rid of _Family Circus._ “OK Billy, who shoved that cucumber up Dolly’s twat?” “Not Me!” ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2005, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kidchameleon-rape-is-not-sexy/325736/66 "2005-10-11T20:35:07Z")
> [@Otto](#): > > “OK Billy, who shoved that cucumber up Dolly’s twat?” > > “Not Me!” Disgusting. Pedophilic rape is not funny. I shouldn’t have laughed. ---
**Author:** ![rayh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@rayh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rayh)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2005, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kidchameleon-rape-is-not-sexy/325736/67 "2005-10-11T20:44:08Z")
What’s red, sits in a corner and cries? A baby eating a razor blade. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2005, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kidchameleon-rape-is-not-sexy/325736/68 "2005-10-11T20:52:00Z")
> [@Otto](#): > > “OK Billy, who shoved that cucumber up Dolly’s twat?” > > “Not Me!” Disgusting, gross, but did not fall flat. At all. Sir, I congratulate you. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2005, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kidchameleon-rape-is-not-sexy/325736/69 "2005-10-11T21:04:53Z")
> [@Maus Magill](#): > > Disgusting, gross, but did not fall flat. Indeed, it’s the best laugh I’ve had all day. ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2005, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kidchameleon-rape-is-not-sexy/325736/70 "2005-10-11T21:16:50Z")
> [@VarlosZ](#): > > Aww, but the joke is so much funnier if you leave in the crying. [A lap dance is so much better when the stripper is crying.](http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/A-Lap-Dance-Is-So-Much-Better-When-the-Stripper-is-Crying-lyrics-Bloodhound-Gang/13794BB04FE6F31C482568C7000A5439) ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hook](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@The\_Hook](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hook)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2005, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kidchameleon-rape-is-not-sexy/325736/71 "2005-10-11T21:20:58Z")
> [@Hentor the Barbarian](#): > > To paraphrase some Frenchie who I’ve never heard of since I can’t read anyways, I may not like the joke, but I will defend to the dick his right to make bad jokes. You mean Evelyn Beatrice Hall writing under the pseudonym Stephen G. Tallentyre in _The Friends of Voltaire_, right? > [@Otto](#): > > As to the OP, yes, the idea that someone would even in jest suggest that watching an actual teenage girl be sexually humiliated and assaulted is a big turn-on is fairly disgusting, even with the presence of the all-mitigating smilie. In light of everything else you’ve said on this thread, what you meant, in other words, was: You didn’t like the joke. Ok, good for you. No one else did. Argument over. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hook](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@The\_Hook](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hook)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2005, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kidchameleon-rape-is-not-sexy/325736/72 "2005-10-11T22:18:58Z")
By the way… > [@kidchameleon](#): > > I think I need to examine this DVD before I can render a judgement… The joke here is: #1 I can’t wait for the audio commentary on that one! #2 I hear the director’s cut comes packed with 2 more minutes of ass spanking. As for the sexual act itself: Had she been a worker at Wendy’s the blowjob is out, but the fingering is mandatory. . . . Taddah! ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2005, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kidchameleon-rape-is-not-sexy/325736/73 "2005-10-11T22:22:10Z")
> [@The Hook](#): > > In light of everything else you’ve said on this thread, what you meant, in other words, was: You didn’t like the joke. Um, no, in light of everything else I’ve said in this thread, I meant exactly what I said the first time. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2005, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kidchameleon-rape-is-not-sexy/325736/74 "2005-10-11T22:22:54Z")
> [@The Hook](#): > > Had she been a worker at Wendy’s the blowjob is out, but the fingering is mandatory. I am so going to Hell for laughing at that one. ---
**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2005, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kidchameleon-rape-is-not-sexy/325736/75 "2005-10-11T22:33:04Z")
> [@rayh](#): > > What’s red, sits in a corner and cries? > > A baby eating a razor blade. What’s red, cries and sits in the corner getting smaller and smaller? A baby with a potato peeler. ---
**Author:** ![Metacom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@Metacom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Metacom)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2005, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kidchameleon-rape-is-not-sexy/325736/76 "2005-10-12T00:03:38Z")
If someone laughed at the old “Why did the chicken cross the road?” joke, I have a feeling there’s a contingent on the SDMB who would pit that person for not being sensitive to the travel needs of chickens. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2005, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kidchameleon-rape-is-not-sexy/325736/77 "2005-10-12T00:12:55Z")
> [@The Hook](#): > > Had she been a worker at Wendy’s the blowjob is out, but the fingering is mandatory. > > . > . > . > > Taddah! The Aristocrats! ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2005, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kidchameleon-rape-is-not-sexy/325736/78 "2005-10-12T06:35:16Z")
> [@NurseCarmen](#): > > **kidchameleon** isn’t a sick fuck. _I’m_ a sick fuck, because I’ve been waiting and hoping for that dude to call me! > > note for the tasteless joke impaired. > This is another sick fucking joke. > deal with it. Yes, it is a sick fucking joke. Because Nix, the guy in the linked story, probably had that attitude for real, at least subconsciously. What happened probably had less to do with obedience to authority, as discussed in the other thread, and a bit more to do with being given carte blanche to use and abuse an 18-y/o girl. He gets to see her naked, spank her and all the rest of it, and it’s okay because hey, it wasn’t his idea. So your “joke” and **kidc** ’s “joke” explain a lot about how this could happen. ---
**Author:** ![Futile\_Gesture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f05b48/32.png) [@Futile\_Gesture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Futile_Gesture)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2005, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kidchameleon-rape-is-not-sexy/325736/79 "2005-10-12T10:10:23Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > So at common law, forcible sodomy or oral copulation is not rape. Some jurisdictions define crimes like “forcible sodomy” or “criminal sexual assault” to punish such acts. Others include it in “rape.” It’s by no means a given that the correct word to use to describe the crime here is rape… IF **Futile Gesture** ’s objection was focused on that distinction. If the objection was that the force element of rape wasn’t present… it is. Got to love the Pit, everyone always so willing to assume the worst and take offence. Forced oral copulation is not rape. It’s wrong, illegal, a serious assault, a very, very bad thing. But not rape. Too often people are keen to describe an offence as the next worst thing, just to express their outrage. But once you start calling sexual assaults rape, what do you call rape? And just to make it clear to all those broad-minded defenders of humour; **kidchameleon** ’s comment deserved a pitting not because it was sick humour, but because it wasn’t even approaching funny. It was lame, pathetic and bereft of any wit or intelligence. So that just left it being sick. ---
**Author:** ![Silentgoldfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@Silentgoldfish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silentgoldfish)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2005, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kidchameleon-rape-is-not-sexy/325736/80 "2005-10-12T11:00:38Z")
> [@Futile Gesture](#): > > And just to make it clear to all those broad-minded defenders of humour; **kidchameleon** ’s comment deserved a pitting not because it was sick humour, but because it wasn’t even approaching funny. It was lame, pathetic and bereft of any wit or intelligence. So that just left it being sick. So then just ignoring it is so hard why? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kidchameleon-rape-is-not-sexy/325736.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kidchameleon-rape-is-not-sexy/325736.md?page=5)