# Kiddie drinks with booze-who the hell comes up with this stuff? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 21, 2007, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kiddie-drinks-with-booze-who-the-hell-comes-up-with-this-stuff/404956 "2007-05-21T18:44:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2007, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kiddie-drinks-with-booze-who-the-hell-comes-up-with-this-stuff/404956/21 "2007-05-22T21:09:08Z")
[QUOTE=RogueRacer] Dave & Busters is an arcade for adults. Those drinks sound perfectly in line for that. I know RogueGF would like several of those. There are definitely people who don’t like the typical beer, wine, or two part mixer thing. [/QUOTE] I’m aware that it is-like I said, it’s like Chuck E. Cheez for grown-ups. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2007, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kiddie-drinks-with-booze-who-the-hell-comes-up-with-this-stuff/404956/22 "2007-05-22T21:30:30Z")
They are made for people who got their start raiding the medicine cabinet instead of the liquor cabinet. “If you liked Robitussin you’ll love our Cherrytini!” ---
**Author:** ![detop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@detop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/detop)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2007, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kiddie-drinks-with-booze-who-the-hell-comes-up-with-this-stuff/404956/23 "2007-05-22T21:33:46Z")
[QUOTE=MoodIndigo1] A scotch-with-a-drop-of-spring-water drinker here. [/QUOTE] I… see. Water is to strong for you. You have to cut it with scotch. ---
**Author:** ![Hunter\_Hawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/50afbb/32.png) [@Hunter\_Hawk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hunter_Hawk)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2007, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kiddie-drinks-with-booze-who-the-hell-comes-up-with-this-stuff/404956/24 "2007-05-22T21:36:24Z")
[QUOTE=Ukulele Ike] Arrested adolescence. It’s been a problem in the USA since the baby boom. Sugary wine, sugary cocktails, sugary hamburger rolls, for godssake. One of the reasons I choose to live in NYC, one of the last bastions of adulthood. [/QUOTE] OTOH, it would be easier to argue that _dry_ cocktails are the exception. Americans have had a sweet tooth since way before the baby boom. Granted, the candy-tinis are a recent development, but most of the old drinks have sugar in them. Hell, jello shots date back to the mid-1800s. ---
**Author:** ![RogueRacer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7ab992/32.png) [@RogueRacer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RogueRacer)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kiddie-drinks-with-booze-who-the-hell-comes-up-with-this-stuff/404956/25 "2007-05-23T19:29:51Z")
[QUOTE=Guinastasia] I’m aware that it is-like I said, it’s like Chuck E. Cheez for grown-ups. [/QUOTE] Well… I don’t recall any animatronics. 😉 Seriously though, these drinks won’t be on the menu long if they don’t sell. If they’ve been there a while, people are drinking them. I know plenty of people who just don’t like beer, or wine, or sipping a whiskey. It doesn’t make them bad people. Honest. ---
**Author:** ![FordPrefect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e99b99/32.png) [@FordPrefect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FordPrefect)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kiddie-drinks-with-booze-who-the-hell-comes-up-with-this-stuff/404956/26 "2007-05-23T19:45:15Z")
[QUOTE=Bill Door] **Ukelele Ike** it has gotten nothing but worse. Just last Saturday night I met a professional bartender who honestly thought that an extra dry martini meant one with extra vermouth. I weep for the future. [/QUOTE] A definite sign of the end times! I was a 12 year old kid watching M.A.S.H., my parents didn’t drink gin, and I knew what “dry” meant in that context. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kiddie-drinks-with-booze-who-the-hell-comes-up-with-this-stuff/404956/27 "2007-05-23T19:47:49Z")
[QUOTE=MoodIndigo1] I think I threw up in my mouth just a bit while reading those ingredients. A scotch-with-a-drop-of-spring-water drinker here. [/QUOTE] And this makes _me_ ill! 😛 I’ll take any one of those drinks from the OP, please. You buying? Even better. Some of us don’t particularly like the taste of alcohol. It’s similar to coffee. Some of you drink it black. Some of _us_ like a little coffee with our cream and sugar. ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kiddie-drinks-with-booze-who-the-hell-comes-up-with-this-stuff/404956/28 "2007-05-23T21:00:14Z")
Guin, sorry, but I find it funny that you like Baileys or a mudslide but find these drinks worth dissing. For the record - I’ll drink martini’s (real ones with gin, even), burbon over ice, single malt scotch, wine (red please), cosmopolitians, margaritas, whiskey cokes, Bailey’s, ice cream drinks, and those candy drinks - depends on what I’m in the mood for (cosmos and red wine are default). I personally think ice cream drinks are funny - you get fat before you get drunk - but sometimes you want ice cream and when you are sitting on a beach… I have learned that there is a significant difference in my enjoyment of “traditional” drinks when you are using high end liquor. When you go cheap - the sweet hides the lighter fluid taste. Since these drinks often appeal to “lets get drunk cheap” there is a rationale for the sweet. Sometimes you want dessert. Sometimes you want a steak. Some people eat nothing but dessert, some people don’t have a sweet tooth. Yeah, I think your palate develops as you get older (for most people) and Twinkies stop being the food of your dreams (and the liquid equivalent of Twinkies lose some of their appeal), but as long as the person drinking it is legal and the bar is carding - what the hell. ---
**Author:** ![zweisamkeit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zweisamkeit/32/4360_2.png) [@zweisamkeit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zweisamkeit)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kiddie-drinks-with-booze-who-the-hell-comes-up-with-this-stuff/404956/29 "2007-05-23T21:41:58Z")
[QUOTE=Dangerosa] Guin, sorry, but I find it funny that you like Baileys or a mudslide but find these drinks worth dissing. For the record - I’ll drink martini’s (real ones with gin, even), burbon over ice, single malt scotch, wine (red please), cosmopolitians, margaritas, whiskey cokes, Bailey’s, ice cream drinks, and those candy drinks - depends on what I’m in the mood for (cosmos and red wine are default). I personally think ice cream drinks are funny - you get fat before you get drunk - but sometimes you want ice cream and when you are sitting on a beach… I have learned that there is a significant difference in my enjoyment of “traditional” drinks when you are using high end liquor. When you go cheap - the sweet hides the lighter fluid taste. Since these drinks often appeal to “lets get drunk cheap” there is a rationale for the sweet. Sometimes you want dessert. Sometimes you want a steak. Some people eat nothing but dessert, some people don’t have a sweet tooth. Yeah, I think your palate develops as you get older (for most people) and Twinkies stop being the food of your dreams (and the liquid equivalent of Twinkies lose some of their appeal), but as long as the person drinking it is legal and the bar is carding - what the hell. [/QUOTE] Completely agreed on everything. How is a mudslide or a pink squirrel (heh, I always loved the name of that one) less candy-like than the Dave & Busters drinks? I love drinks like those when I’m in the mood for them. Other times I’ll get a gin and tonic. Other times I’ll get some straight kirschwasser and sip that. It’s not a character defect to have a silly girly drink. (Now, for a sweet drink that will really get you hammered: 1 shot vodka, 1 shot chambourd and 1 shot grand marnier/triple sec. It tastes like Hawaiian Punch and hits you like a hammer) ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kiddie-drinks-with-booze-who-the-hell-comes-up-with-this-stuff/404956/30 "2007-05-23T23:42:48Z")
[QUOTE=RogueRacer] Well… I don’t recall any animatronics. 😉 Seriously though, these drinks won’t be on the menu long if they don’t sell. If they’ve been there a while, people are drinking them. I know plenty of people who just don’t like beer, or wine, or sipping a whiskey. It doesn’t make them bad people. Honest. [/QUOTE] Of course it doesn’t make them bad people, nor do I dispute that they wouldn’t sell. I just find them a little TOO sweet. Like Sweet Tarts. I like things rich and creamy and thick. I like my coffee sweet too, but I like it strong and rich. Not sweet and candy-like. Yeah, like I said, I’m a hypocrite. I just don’t know WHO comes up with these things. (Hmmm…I wonder if I could manufactor a sort of candy like Pop-Rocks, only with booze. I bet I’d make a fortune!) ---
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2007, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kiddie-drinks-with-booze-who-the-hell-comes-up-with-this-stuff/404956/31 "2007-05-24T00:31:27Z")
a) martini = gin. Stop diluting the word. b) Some of those “girlie” drinks can be pretty volatile, when mixed by the right bartender. This bar in SF- Trad’r Sam- has a whole list of these specialties, and they can be quite impressive in both taste and proof. To each his own, of course, but I don’t think it’s prudent to decree a unilateral disdain for fruity drinks. ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2007, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kiddie-drinks-with-booze-who-the-hell-comes-up-with-this-stuff/404956/32 "2007-05-24T02:33:19Z")
[QUOTE=Bill Door] Just last Saturday night I met a professional bartender [/QUOTE] No, you didn’t. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Rico](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rico/32/3582_2.png) [@Rico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rico)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2007, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kiddie-drinks-with-booze-who-the-hell-comes-up-with-this-stuff/404956/33 "2007-05-24T03:43:41Z")
[QUOTE=Bill Door] …I met a professional bartender who honestly thought that an extra dry martini meant one with extra vermouth. I weep for the future. [/QUOTE] Recipe for the world’s driest martini. Fill chilled martini glass with gin. Put one drop of vermouth in the room humidifier. Enjoy. ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2007, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kiddie-drinks-with-booze-who-the-hell-comes-up-with-this-stuff/404956/34 "2007-05-24T11:22:14Z")
[QUOTE=Rico] Recipe for the world’s driest martini. [/QUOTE] I’ve always heard it as: Add gin while looking at bottle of vermouth. Garnish. Enjoy. ---
**Author:** ![Maastricht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@Maastricht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maastricht)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2007, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kiddie-drinks-with-booze-who-the-hell-comes-up-with-this-stuff/404956/35 "2007-05-24T11:37:45Z")
In the Netherlands, the past eight years have seen the introduction and the problematically increasing popularity of “Breezers”. Breezers are premade sweet alcoholic drinks like the ones described in the OP. They have about 10 % alcohol content, come in cans and every supermarket sells them. Dutch law forbids that youngsters under 16 buy any alcohol, including breezers. But creative teenagers find ways around that law in the Netherlands the same as they do anywhere else. The main problem seems to be that such alcoholic lemonade creates a whole new group of problematic drinkers: young girls. Dutch papers and magazines lately have called out for a ban on Breezer-like drinks. Here’s an (English) you-tube documentary on " [The Breezer Generation.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZpDj9Slpic) ---
**Author:** ![burundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3ec8ea/32.png) [@burundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burundi)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2007, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kiddie-drinks-with-booze-who-the-hell-comes-up-with-this-stuff/404956/36 "2007-05-24T12:00:22Z")
Sweet drinks like that give me a headache, and drinks with cream turn my stomach. When it comes to hard liquor, I prefer a gin and tonic when it’s warm out and a neat bourbon in the colder seasons. I think that most people who order those drinks are women who don’t drink hard liquor often. Not only for the flavor, but because they combine the naughtiness of alcohol with the naughtiness of desserts. In a room full of women, odds are pretty good that at least a few of them are on some kind of diet. These drinks provide a way to _really_ break that deprivation, if that’s what you’re subconsciously looking for. ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2007, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kiddie-drinks-with-booze-who-the-hell-comes-up-with-this-stuff/404956/37 "2007-05-24T12:20:45Z")
[QUOTE=Guinastasia] (Hmmm…I wonder if I could manufactor a sort of candy like Pop-Rocks, only with booze. I bet I’d make a fortune!) [/QUOTE] I’d be more than happy to be your taste-tester, if you need one. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Hunter\_Hawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/50afbb/32.png) [@Hunter\_Hawk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hunter_Hawk)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2007, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kiddie-drinks-with-booze-who-the-hell-comes-up-with-this-stuff/404956/38 "2007-05-24T15:40:23Z")
[QUOTE=Guinastasia] Hmmm…I wonder if I could manufactor a sort of candy like Pop-Rocks, only with booze. I bet I’d make a fortune! [/QUOTE] [Already done](http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/10/dining/10drin.html?ex=1304913600&en=b16c33e722b47eae&ei=5088) (well, sort of) thanks to the Ferran Adria fanbois. Do a search for “molecular mixology”. > [@The NY Times](#): > > José Andrés and his chef, Katsuya Fukushima, include two cocktail courses in the 20-plus-course menu that constitutes a meal at Mr. Andrés’s Minibar, inside the Café Atlántico in Washington. One is a whiskey sour topped off with a passion fruit foam; the other is a little spray can, from which you can mist as much mojito into your mouth as you like. > > The pair are currently perfecting two new drinks, a “dirty” martini and a carbonated mojito “espherication.” For the martini, they blend olive juice, vermouth and gin with xanthan gum and calcium chloride and drop it into a sodium alginate and water solution to form stable olive-shaped blobs. It is served as a lone olive in an empty glass; it reverts to a liquid state when popped into the mouth. The mojito is made with rum, lime and mint and shaped into a sphere through the same process, then carbonated in a pressurized container filled with carbon dioxide to mimic the bubbly mouth-feel of a real mojito. ---
**Author:** ![Bill\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@Bill\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_Door)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2007, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kiddie-drinks-with-booze-who-the-hell-comes-up-with-this-stuff/404956/39 "2007-05-24T17:05:31Z")
[QUOTE=KneadToKnow] I’ve always heard it as: Add gin while looking at bottle of vermouth. Garnish. Enjoy. [/QUOTE] At home I store my olives in a jar of vermouth. You can buy them that way, but it’s more cost effective to make your own. A couple of olives is all the vermouth you need. ---
**Author:** ![hawksgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ed655f/32.png) [@hawksgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hawksgirl)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2007, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kiddie-drinks-with-booze-who-the-hell-comes-up-with-this-stuff/404956/40 "2007-05-24T17:13:26Z")
[QUOTE=KneadToKnow] I’ve always heard it as: Add gin while looking at bottle of vermouth. Garnish. Enjoy. [/QUOTE] I thought it was drinking gin while looking at a picture of Antonio Benedetto Carpano, the inventor of vermouth. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kiddie-drinks-with-booze-who-the-hell-comes-up-with-this-stuff/404956.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kiddie-drinks-with-booze-who-the-hell-comes-up-with-this-stuff/404956.md?page=3)