# Kids have started watching Star Trek TOS and like it **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 10, 2012, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kids-have-started-watching-star-trek-tos-and-like-it/624732 "2012-06-10T15:28:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![boozilu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4da419/32.png) [@boozilu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boozilu)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2012, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kids-have-started-watching-star-trek-tos-and-like-it/624732/1 "2012-06-10T15:28:39Z")
I’m so happy We started them with The Apple (Vaal), Shore Leave, and Arena. Now they ask to watch every night. So happy. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2012, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kids-have-started-watching-star-trek-tos-and-like-it/624732/2 "2012-06-10T15:35:08Z")
> [@boozilu](#): > > I’m so happy > > We started them with The Apple (Vaal), Shore Leave, and Arena. Now they ask to watch every night. > > So happy. Doomsday Machine was the one that got me hooked at age 14. Unfortunately, by then TOS had been cancelled by NBC several months previously. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2012, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kids-have-started-watching-star-trek-tos-and-like-it/624732/3 "2012-06-10T17:51:16Z")
When I got married, my husband and I agreed to raise our family fannish. ---
**Author:** ![boozilu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4da419/32.png) [@boozilu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boozilu)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2012, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kids-have-started-watching-star-trek-tos-and-like-it/624732/4 "2012-06-10T18:09:45Z")
We did do Doomsday Machine – it was fun watching how tense the kids were when they thought Kirk might not be beamed up in time. It’s so fun reliving these shows with them – raising another generation of Trekkies! ---
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2012, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kids-have-started-watching-star-trek-tos-and-like-it/624732/5 "2012-06-10T20:06:16Z")
> [@boozilu](#): > > We did do Doomsday Machine – it was fun watching how tense the kids were when they thought Kirk might not be beamed up in time. > > It’s so fun reliving these shows with them – raising another generation of Trekkies! Watching TOS recently I found it a lot more tense than modern shows, I often could not predict what would happen. ---
**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2012, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kids-have-started-watching-star-trek-tos-and-like-it/624732/6 "2012-06-10T20:21:27Z")
You’re no Herbert! ---
**Author:** ![Kenm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc79bd/32.png) [@Kenm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kenm)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2012, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kids-have-started-watching-star-trek-tos-and-like-it/624732/7 "2012-06-10T20:50:44Z")
TOS is being butchered by marketers with the same mindset as those who would colourize black-and-white classics, such as the Maltese Falcon, to make them “better.” The TOS episodes, filmed at 4:3, have been cropped to fit 16:9. Space the bastards! ---
**Author:** ![oreally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ab992/32.png) [@oreally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oreally)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kids-have-started-watching-star-trek-tos-and-like-it/624732/8 "2012-06-17T00:29:18Z")
> [@BMalion](#): > > You’re no Herbert! ugh worst episode ever. I kept praying for the space hippies all to die (except the hot blonde) 🙂 > [@Kenm](#): > > TOS is being butchered by marketers with the same mindset as those who would colourize black-and-white classics, such as the Maltese Falcon, to make them “better.” > > The TOS episodes, filmed at 4:3, have been cropped to fit 16:9. Space the bastards! They also inserted “modern graphics” for shots of orbiting planets. It looks out of place and stupid. Leave classic the flip ALONE. You cannot improve them. :cues up fight music: ---
**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kids-have-started-watching-star-trek-tos-and-like-it/624732/9 "2012-06-17T01:36:32Z")
My wife and I first bonded playing Star Trek trivia during down time on a volunteer organization we both worked for. We also chose to raise our kids fannish (great one, **Dendarii Dame**!). Our kids had other ideas. While our daughter is fluent in Elvish (to the point of being able to explain just how the Ring inscription is “of an ancient mode”), and our son LOVES\* Dead Like Me\*, neither one cares for Star Trek. Indeed, they roll their eyes when my wife or I quote from any Trek series, which is quite often. Oh, well. We’ll just have to try to convert the grandchildren. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kids-have-started-watching-star-trek-tos-and-like-it/624732/10 "2012-06-17T01:52:09Z")
non sequitur ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kids-have-started-watching-star-trek-tos-and-like-it/624732/11 "2012-06-17T02:53:25Z")
> [@BrotherCadfael](#): > > While our daughter is fluent in Elvish (to the point of being able to explain just how the Ring inscription is “of an ancient mode”), and our son LOVES\* Dead Like Me\*, neither one cares for Star Trek. [pendant hat on]Ancient mode? It’s Black Speech as rendered in an elven script. Calling it an ancient mode is kin to reading [Bashō](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matsuo_Bash%C5%8D) in romaji and calling it English in an ancient mode.[pedant hat off] ---
**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kids-have-started-watching-star-trek-tos-and-like-it/624732/12 "2012-06-17T13:50:12Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > [pendant hat on]Ancient mode? It’s Black Speech as rendered in an elven script. Calling it an ancient mode is kin to reading [Bashō](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matsuo_Bash%C5%8D) in romaji and calling it English in an ancient mode.[pedant hat off] Don’t blame her, blame Tolkien: > [@](#): > > The letters are \*_Elvish, of an ancient mode_, \*but the language is that of Mordor, which I will not utter here. ---
**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kids-have-started-watching-star-trek-tos-and-like-it/624732/13 "2012-06-17T13:57:15Z")
It appears that **BrotherCadfael** ’s daughter (would that be NieceCadfael?) has won this round. Penalties applied to **DesertDog**. Prepare for round two. And… begin! ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kids-have-started-watching-star-trek-tos-and-like-it/624732/14 "2012-06-17T16:52:34Z")
> [@oreally](#): > > ugh worst episode ever. I kept praying for the space hippies all to die (except the hot blonde) 🙂 This could be fun: What’s your worst TOS episode ever? Mine would include \*Plato’s Stepchildren \*Mark of Gideon \*The Empath \*Elaan of Troyus \*Is There in Truth No Beauty? \*The Cloud Minders \*Requiem for Methuselah. And yes, they’re all third season episodes. I refuse to put Spock’s Brain on the list. When I’m in the right mood, it’s just good old plain, silly fun! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kids-have-started-watching-star-trek-tos-and-like-it/624732/15 "2012-06-17T18:32:37Z")
> [@Gagundathar](#): > > It appears that **BrotherCadfael** ’s daughter (would that be NieceCadfael?) has won this round. Penalties applied to **DesertDog**. > > Prepare for round two. > And… begin! I bet 5000 quatloos on \*\* NieceCadfael\*\*. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kids-have-started-watching-star-trek-tos-and-like-it/624732/16 "2012-06-17T19:02:10Z")
> [@oreally](#): > > They also inserted “modern graphics” for shots of orbiting planets. It looks out of place and stupid. Leave classic the flip ALONE. You cannot improve them. > > :cues up fight music: They look neither out of place nor stupid. The new effects look great and stay true to the artistic style of the original, ship-on-a-stick effects. On this I will brook no dispute. Harumph. ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kids-have-started-watching-star-trek-tos-and-like-it/624732/17 "2012-06-17T19:18:01Z")
I wish I had had you as parents! My dad brought me up with Voyager as a kid! ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kids-have-started-watching-star-trek-tos-and-like-it/624732/18 "2012-06-17T19:30:18Z")
[Voyagers!](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083500/) was great! ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kids-have-started-watching-star-trek-tos-and-like-it/624732/19 "2012-06-17T19:52:26Z")
> [@The\_Tooth](#): > > They look neither out of place nor stupid. The new effects look great and stay true to the artistic style of the original, ship-on-a-stick effects. On this I will brook no dispute. In an interview not long before he passed away, TOS Associate Producer Bob Justman praised the new effects, saying they were the kind that Roddenberry always wanted but couldn’t afford. (Of course, back then they would still have used models instead of CGI, but more on the quality of _2001_ than the original TREK opticals.) I believe the Justman interview is available on YouTube, along with interviews with Majel Barrett, Dorothy Fontana, Herb Solow, and other TOS cast members. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kids-have-started-watching-star-trek-tos-and-like-it/624732/20 "2012-06-17T19:56:05Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > [Voyagers!](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083500/) was great! I always thought the idea for this came from _Time Bandits_, a totally awesome movie. I watched it on video one night bombed out of my mind, and I was blown away (even though I’d already seen it in a cinema when it first came out)! [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kids-have-started-watching-star-trek-tos-and-like-it/624732.md?page=2)