# Kill a Super Friend

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kill-a-super-friend/728314>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 20, 2015, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kill-a-super-friend/728314 "2015-08-20T02:50:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Lowdown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Lowdown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lowdown)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2015, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kill-a-super-friend/728314/21 "2015-08-20T18:40:04Z")

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Aquaman. So boring.

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**Author:** ![Laggard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Laggard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laggard)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2015, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kill-a-super-friend/728314/22 "2015-08-20T19:03:31Z")

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Batman

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2015, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kill-a-super-friend/728314/23 "2015-08-20T19:08:04Z")

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A vast majority of the Earth’s surface is covered by water, so Aquaman actually would come in handy a lot, Midwest adventures notwithstanding.

Marvin & Wendy are civilians and honorary groupies so don’t deserve the punishment. Gleek is an animal and that’s just cruel, no matter how annoying he is.

But who has the fewest powers and the least seniority? The answer will always be Robin. Ciao.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2015, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kill-a-super-friend/728314/24 "2015-08-20T19:28:05Z")

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Why can’t I kill Martian Manhunter? I really, really want to kill Martian Manhunter. They can replace him with Ray Walston. Or Marvin the Martian.

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**Author:** ![Cartoonacy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/848f3c/32.png) [@Cartoonacy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartoonacy)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2015, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kill-a-super-friend/728314/25 "2015-08-20T21:00:45Z")

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> [@Don\_Draper](#):
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> FTR, I tried to fix the poll to change “Black Lightning” to “Black Vulcan”, and “Super Samurai” to “Samurai” (my recollection of 40 year old cartoons is spotty), but I couldn’t figure it out. But you guys know who I mean of course.

Just a little confused. There was a Super Samurai, but he was a member of [Freedom Force](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhTqysZYhtA). You can kill him off; I’m OK with that.

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**Author:** ![Cartoonacy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/848f3c/32.png) [@Cartoonacy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartoonacy)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2015, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kill-a-super-friend/728314/26 "2015-08-20T21:02:32Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> Why can’t I kill Martian Manhunter?

'Cause he wasn’t a Super Friend. He’s one of the original Justice Leaguers, true, but he was never on the Super Friends show. Any of them. Unless he was invisible and never said anything.

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**Author:** ![Cartoonacy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/848f3c/32.png) [@Cartoonacy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartoonacy)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2015, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kill-a-super-friend/728314/27 "2015-08-20T21:06:36Z")

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> [@MovieMogul](#):
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> But who has the fewest powers and the least seniority? The answer will always be Robin. Ciao.

Least seniority? Robin’s been around since 1940. That’s a year longer than Wonder Woman and Aquaman, and 2 or 3 decades longer than any of the others except for Superman and Batman.  
(But yeah, I know what you meant…)

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2015, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kill-a-super-friend/728314/28 "2015-08-20T21:47:53Z")

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> [@MovieMogul](#):
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> A vast majority of the Earth’s surface is covered by water, so Aquaman actually would come in handy a lot

Our heroes somehow always manage to outwit the world’s worst supervillains.

Who only ever plan their crimes at their sinister headquarters.

Which is half-submerged in a swamp.

Hey, wait a minute.

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2015, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kill-a-super-friend/728314/29 "2015-08-20T21:57:05Z")

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Aquaman, like the Goggles, does nothing.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2015, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kill-a-super-friend/728314/30 "2015-08-20T21:59:12Z")

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I wanted to see superheroes, but those stupid kids Wendy and Marvin got far more screen time than any of the real heroes.

They should die slowly and painfully.

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2015, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kill-a-super-friend/728314/31 "2015-08-20T22:21:28Z")

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> [@Laggard](#):
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> Batman

You can’t. He’s prepared.

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2015, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kill-a-super-friend/728314/32 "2015-08-20T23:23:52Z")

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> [@Cartoonacy](#):
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> Least seniority? Robin’s been around since 1940. That’s a year longer than Wonder Woman and Aquaman, and 2 or 3 decades longer than any of the others except for Superman and Batman.  
> (But yeah, I know what you meant…)

Yeah, seniority is different from longevity. He’s the only sidekick in the Super Friends. Worst costume, too (and that includes Apache Chief).

He would not be missed.

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**Author:** ![tonyfop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/85f322/32.png) [@tonyfop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tonyfop)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2015, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kill-a-super-friend/728314/33 "2015-08-20T23:43:20Z")

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First thought was Aquaman, since he was the lamest of the originals, when I saw you were going for all of the Super Friends, so i was going to go with Gleek. But he is grouped with the Wonder Twins, and occasionally a pterodactyl carrying a bucket of water could come in handy, so it has to be Wendy, Marvin and Wonder Dog. Lame, just lame.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2015, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kill-a-super-friend/728314/34 "2015-08-21T00:03:31Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> Our heroes somehow always manage to outwit the world’s worst supervillains.
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> Who only ever plan their crimes at their sinister headquarters.
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> Which is half-submerged in a swamp.
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> Hey, wait a minute.

Does Aquaman have the power to speak with freshwater fish? If he’s weakened by extensive dryness, can he be rejuvenated by leaping into a pond?

If so, he can join in on the Lex Luthor In Lincoln, Nebraska, caper. There’s always a storm drain around someplace. Or a bathtub.

He’d be great at the Friday Night Fish Fry, too. “Perch! Leap into this net!!”

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**Author:** ![Don\_Draper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Don\_Draper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_Draper)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2015, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kill-a-super-friend/728314/35 "2015-08-21T03:16:48Z")

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> [@Cartoonacy](#):
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> Just a little confused. There was a Super Samurai, but he was a member of [Freedom Force](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhTqysZYhtA). You can kill him off; I’m OK with that.

Oh my God, you’re right. That’s where I got that name. Funny thing is, I don’'t think I’ve thought of that show (conciously at any rate) for the 35 - 40 years since it aired. I had forgotten it ever existed.

Yeah, I would’ve killed him off as well.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2015, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kill-a-super-friend/728314/36 "2015-08-21T11:18:15Z")

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Incidentally, regular characters in the later seasons that are unlisted in the OP include El Dorado, Firestorm and Cyborg. El Dorado, like Samurai, had an odd variety of probably-mystical abilities that could often deus-ex a solution to that week’s problem.

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**Author:** ![Cartoonacy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/848f3c/32.png) [@Cartoonacy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartoonacy)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2015, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kill-a-super-friend/728314/37 "2015-08-21T14:24:52Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Incidentally, regular characters in the later seasons that are unlisted in the OP include El Dorado, Firestorm and Cyborg. El Dorado, like Samurai, had an odd variety of probably-mystical abilities that could often deus-ex a solution to that week’s problem.

E. Nelson Bridwell, when he was writing the _Super Friends_ comic book, once said that Samurai’s powers were too vaguely defined. He said that, from what he could tell in the TV cartoon, Samurai would change into whatever he said in Japanese… which must have made it hard for him to order sushi.

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**Author:** ![Cartoonacy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/848f3c/32.png) [@Cartoonacy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartoonacy)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2015, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kill-a-super-friend/728314/38 "2015-08-21T14:39:14Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> If he’s weakened by extensive dryness, can he be rejuvenated by leaping into a pond?

Oh, sure. I remember a comic in which he was rejuvenated by having a can of soda poured over his head.\*

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> He’d be great at the Friday Night Fish Fry, too. “Perch! Leap into this net!!”

He’d never do that. The fish are his friends. Which always made me wonder just what he eats. Kelp and plankton aren’t all that high in protein.

\*Wonder Woman #215, if you really want to know.

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2015, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kill-a-super-friend/728314/39 "2015-08-21T23:06:10Z")

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Note–it **cannot** be either Wendy, nor Jayna.  
As a Youth, I had dreams—of a Canola Oil Wrestling match, between them.

Do not kill my childhood dreams, man.

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2015, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kill-a-super-friend/728314/40 "2015-08-21T23:30:03Z")

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Wonder Woman. Anything she does Superman can do better, and I’m sure Batman could scrounge up a replacement for her plane from somewhere in Wayne Enterprises.

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