# Kill Bill vol 2..stay out if you haven't seen it. The ending **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 13, 2005, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kill-bill-vol-2-stay-out-if-you-havent-seen-it-the-ending/289933 "2005-02-13T23:55:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2005, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kill-bill-vol-2-stay-out-if-you-havent-seen-it-the-ending/289933/1 "2005-02-13T23:55:33Z")
I just watched vol 2. I’ll put in spoiler tags anyway. [spoiler]Bill didn’t die did he? Hence all the thank yous at the end?[/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2005, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kill-bill-vol-2-stay-out-if-you-havent-seen-it-the-ending/289933/2 "2005-02-13T23:56:41Z")
My apologies. ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2005, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kill-bill-vol-2-stay-out-if-you-havent-seen-it-the-ending/289933/3 "2005-02-13T23:58:16Z")
No, Bill is dead. He has ceased to be. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2005, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kill-bill-vol-2-stay-out-if-you-havent-seen-it-the-ending/289933/4 "2005-02-14T00:11:59Z")
Ehm…been a while since I watched it, and didn’t really pay attention to the final credits, but what do the thank yous have to do with Bill’s fate? ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2005, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kill-bill-vol-2-stay-out-if-you-havent-seen-it-the-ending/289933/5 "2005-02-14T00:16:11Z")
> [@Tengu](#): > > Ehm…been a while since I watched it, and didn’t really pay attention to the final credits, but what do the thank yous have to do with Bill’s fate? Just who is she thanking then? ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2005, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kill-bill-vol-2-stay-out-if-you-havent-seen-it-the-ending/289933/6 "2005-02-14T00:30:36Z")
A. Bill died. The 5-point palm exploding heart technique killed him. B. IMO, Beatrix is thanking God, or the universe at large, that she was able to succeed in her revenge and to get her daughter back. ---
**Author:** ![pinkfreud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pinkfreud/32/17603_2.png) [@pinkfreud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pinkfreud)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2005, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kill-bill-vol-2-stay-out-if-you-havent-seen-it-the-ending/289933/7 "2005-02-14T00:39:13Z")
Well, I think Bill is as dead as the proverbial doornail. I am not so sure about Elle Driver, though. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2005, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kill-bill-vol-2-stay-out-if-you-havent-seen-it-the-ending/289933/8 "2005-02-14T00:45:15Z")
Elle Driver is merely blinded, not dead. She will emerge as the teacher of Vernita Green’s daughter, who will challenge Beatrix when she grows up. ---
**Author:** ![pinkfreud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pinkfreud/32/17603_2.png) [@pinkfreud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pinkfreud)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2005, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kill-bill-vol-2-stay-out-if-you-havent-seen-it-the-ending/289933/9 "2005-02-14T00:48:01Z")
> [@gobear](#): > > Elle Driver is merely blinded, not dead. She will emerge as the teacher of Vernita Green’s daughter, who will challenge Beatrix when she grows up. Or maybe challenge Beatrix’s goldfish-stomping little girl. ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2005, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kill-bill-vol-2-stay-out-if-you-havent-seen-it-the-ending/289933/10 "2005-02-14T00:57:03Z")
I still don’t buy it. Bill wouldn’t just roll over and die. I mean the movie was pretty true to the martial arts. And there is nothing in martial arts like the 5-point palm exploding heart technique. I still believe it was a thing between them where she didn’t have to kill her childs father to get her back. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2005, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kill-bill-vol-2-stay-out-if-you-havent-seen-it-the-ending/289933/11 "2005-02-14T01:03:30Z")
The movie isn’t real. It’s not meant to represent the real world. Tarantino has been clear in interviews that **Kill Bill** is the movie the people in **Pulp Fiction** [ would watch. Bill died, killed by Pei Mei’s deadly technique. And, no, the movie isn’t true to martial arts. No matter how skilled one may be in gong fu, one cannot fly. The movie _is_ true, however to cinematic martial arts, particularly the Shaw Brothers films of the 70s. ---
**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2005, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kill-bill-vol-2-stay-out-if-you-havent-seen-it-the-ending/289933/12 "2005-02-14T01:36:43Z")
Also, no matter how much kung fu, ninjitsu, karate, or whatever Bea knows, it isn’t going to allow her to swim through dirt to escape a grave. _Kill Bill_ isn’t remotely true to the marshal arts, except as they exist in Hollywood. ---
**Author:** ![Menocchio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@Menocchio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Menocchio)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2005, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kill-bill-vol-2-stay-out-if-you-havent-seen-it-the-ending/289933/13 "2005-02-14T02:54:07Z")
I interpretted it as her thanking Bill for her child. But Bill was still dead. ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2005, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kill-bill-vol-2-stay-out-if-you-havent-seen-it-the-ending/289933/14 "2005-02-14T03:00:14Z")
> [@Reeder](#): > > I still don’t buy it. Bill wouldn’t just roll over and die. I mean the movie was pretty true to the martial arts. > > And there is nothing in martial arts like the 5-point palm exploding heart technique. > > I still believe it was a thing between them where she didn’t have to kill her childs father to get her back. Well, what do you think the point of introducing the technique through Bill’s story earlier in the film if it wasn’t effective? That was a big red flag to the audience. “Pay attention folks!” it screamed “This is important!” ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2005, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kill-bill-vol-2-stay-out-if-you-havent-seen-it-the-ending/289933/15 "2005-02-14T04:02:22Z")
I was under the impression the five-finger discount of death was a ploy so Carradine wouldn’t have to go through an extended kung-fu-fest, which might be beyond the ability of his creakin’ ol’ bones, or beyond Tarantino’s ability to effectively choreograph without making the stunt double obvious. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2005, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kill-bill-vol-2-stay-out-if-you-havent-seen-it-the-ending/289933/16 "2005-02-14T04:02:49Z")
> [@Reeder](#): > > My apologies. I fixed it. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2005, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kill-bill-vol-2-stay-out-if-you-havent-seen-it-the-ending/289933/17 "2005-02-14T04:37:41Z")
The first script clearly indicated Bill was dead. There’s no other possible interpretation of the foreshadowing of the five-finger technique, and I thought it obvious the “thank you” was just a thank you to God/Fate/Whatever. Bill was unambiguously, positively dead. A late assassin. He’s pushing up the daisies. ---
**Author:** ![wolf\_in\_second\_hand\_clothing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/9d8465/32.png) [@wolf\_in\_second\_hand\_clothing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolf_in_second_hand_clothing)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2005, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kill-bill-vol-2-stay-out-if-you-havent-seen-it-the-ending/289933/18 "2005-02-14T04:44:19Z")
So what happened to Sophie in the first one? Do you think Beatrix cut off _all_ of her limbs? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2005, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kill-bill-vol-2-stay-out-if-you-havent-seen-it-the-ending/289933/19 "2005-02-14T04:46:55Z")
> [@pinkfreud](#): > > Or maybe challenge Beatrix’s goldfish-stomping little girl. Vernita’s daughter killing Beatrix is just the set-up for the main plot which will be Beebee’s revenge on the daughter of Vernita Green and on Elle Driver. Just before the final face-off between Beebee and Green, it will be revealed that the father of Vernita Green’s daughter is none other than Bill himself, making her Beebee’s half-sister. This will not stop Beebee from killing her. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2005, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kill-bill-vol-2-stay-out-if-you-havent-seen-it-the-ending/289933/20 "2005-02-14T06:14:54Z")
> [@wolf in second hand clothing](#): > > So what happened to Sophie in the first one? Do you think Beatrix cut off _all_ of her limbs? No, just the arm. Bea dumps Sophie at the Tokyo hospital, rolling her down a hill, and she looks (mostly) intact. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kill-bill-vol-2-stay-out-if-you-havent-seen-it-the-ending/289933.md?page=2)