# Kill 'em first, then sort it out **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 17, 2006, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kill-em-first-then-sort-it-out/352995 "2006-04-17T13:09:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2006, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kill-em-first-then-sort-it-out/352995/41 "2006-04-17T22:38:29Z")
Make that " . . . four year long . . . ." ---
**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2006, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kill-em-first-then-sort-it-out/352995/42 "2006-04-18T01:40:00Z")
> [@Unregistered Bull](#): > > A bit over the top and unnecessary in the vast majority of cases. A well placed .303 soft point from a single shot Martini Enfield ought to work fine on a black bear any way. No need for a whole magazine. Well, since the Martini-Enfield is single-shot, firing it at a bear would technically be emptying the magazine… 😃 A .450/577 Martini-Henry would be a better Bear Stopper anyway- they’ve been known to bring down elephants and tigers before. 😉 Geez, don’t you people have Hyperbole? Obviously I wouldn’t go shooting bears off in the distance that weren’t bothering anyone, but in close quarters, given a split second decision to make, it would be shoot first, hope for Bear Steaks later. Of course, we don’t have Bears in Australia, so it would make a nice rug/conversation piece… 😃 (And [Koalas aren’t bears](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koala) , they’re marsupials…) 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2006, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kill-em-first-then-sort-it-out/352995/43 "2006-04-18T05:15:20Z")
BFD, the maybe might have killed the wrong bear. 1. It’s only an animal. 2. It’s an animal that our pioneer ancestors, rightly, regarded as giant vermin. 3. It’s still only an animal. ---
**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2006, 8:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kill-em-first-then-sort-it-out/352995/44 "2006-04-18T08:45:25Z")
I thought much the same. Such a shame to end a bears life for simply being a bear amongst many. A straw dog, results in the face of pressure. The sacrifice. Such is the disparity in humanity. ---
**Author:** ![ticker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d07c76/32.png) [@ticker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ticker)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2006, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kill-em-first-then-sort-it-out/352995/45 "2006-04-18T19:18:10Z")
> [@smiling bandit](#): > > Sedating a big animal is very difficult; it’s not like in the movies where you shoot it and it drops a second later. The trap used may have permanently maimed it. It’s not _that_ hard. I spent some time volunteering on a Black Bear project in NC some years ago. The traps used caused no harm to the bears - maybe pissed them off a bit, but caused no injury. They were quite simple spring-loaded snares which catches them by the wrist. We all had a go at snaring ourselves and they were really only very mildly uncomfortable. The trapped bears were sedated whilst still in the trap, then we just retreated until the drugs took hold. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kill-em-first-then-sort-it-out/352995.md?page=2)