# Killer street racers released: Are you effing kidding me?! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 1, 2006, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/killer-street-racers-released-are-you-effing-kidding-me/342469 "2006-02-01T04:16:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mindfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindfield/32/19759_2.png) [@Mindfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mindfield)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/killer-street-racers-released-are-you-effing-kidding-me/342469/1 "2006-02-01T04:16:24Z")
In one of the most egregious miscarriages of justice, Wang-Piao Dumani Ross and Alexander Ryazanov have been [released on $50,000 bail each](http://www.pulse24.com/News/Top_Story/20060131-010/page.asp) a mere one week after killing taxi driver Tahir Khan in a spectacularly stupid street racing accident. Let me repeat that: Two street racers mangle a taxi and kill its driver while street racing in Toronto and they spend one week in jail and get out on $50k bond each. What the hemorrhaging _fuck_ is up with that?! They retardedly drag race through the city and kill someone and they spend a _week in jail_ and pay $50k each to get out?! Holy hell on a biscuit! Oh, of course, there are _strict conditions_ to their release. They have to surrender their passports. They can’t contact each other except with attourneys present. They can’t leave the province. They can’t drive (duh!). And if it’s any consolation, their whole week in the hoosgow was “very difficult.” Am I the only one thinking “Morbidly obese deal on a spike?” This is totally unbe-fucking-lievable. I simply can’t formulate words that adequately plumb the depths of how astoundingly, mind-fuckingly disturbing that is. They _killed_ a man when wind shear from excessive speeds yanked their spongiformed brains from their concrete craniums through their cavernous ears and they turned their joyride into an illegal street race, and all they get is a week in jail and a $50,000 tab. Hey, Justice. If you’re looking for the Canadian judicial system, try the bathroom down the tall, where it was last seen dunking its head in the urinal. And as for you two, Wang-Piao and Alexander, you two brainless fucks think a week in prison was _tough?_ Bullshit! What you need is a few years bunking with a large bald man who takes an immediate liking to the shape of your ass. And one final pit for the media: Stop blaming this shit on video games! Who the bloody fuck cares if a copy of Need for Speed was found in the car. As well blame every single game that came out before it! Oh, and blame Vin Diesel for making street racing look so damn cool. Actually, if we’re going to go _that_ far, let’s posthumously blame James Dean for same! Criminy. Go find some new scapegoats already. This horse is already feeding the local fauna. ---
**Author:** ![treis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@treis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/treis)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/killer-street-racers-released-are-you-effing-kidding-me/342469/2 "2006-02-01T04:21:53Z")
Uh, you know they have to go back for a trial and stuff right? Getting out on bail by no means is the end of their jail sentences if found guilty. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/killer-street-racers-released-are-you-effing-kidding-me/342469/3 "2006-02-01T04:23:52Z")
> [@Mindfield](#): > > They _killed_ a man when wind shear from excessive speeds yanked their spongiformed brains from their concrete craniums through their cavernous ears and they turned their joyride into an illegal street race, and all they get is a week in jail and a $50,000 tab. Um, unless things are quite a bit different in Canada than in the States, released on bail doesn’t mean charges have been dropped. It just means they get to wait for their trial in the comfort of their homes instead of a jail cell. Unless they try to flee, in which case I’d assume the Mounties are free to shoot them. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/killer-street-racers-released-are-you-effing-kidding-me/342469/4 "2006-02-01T04:24:34Z")
Damnit, **treis**! [sub]Now, let’s see, how do you delete posts again?[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/killer-street-racers-released-are-you-effing-kidding-me/342469/5 "2006-02-01T04:28:04Z")
I don’t see anything to suggest these two are necessarily a flight risk, and without their passports they’ll have a hard time getting anywhere anyways. To third the sentiments already expressed, you do realize “out on bail” just means they’re free to mill around their homes and the local area while their trial is conducted, legally they aren’t guilty of any crime yet, after all. ---
**Author:** ![Mindfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindfield/32/19759_2.png) [@Mindfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mindfield)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/killer-street-racers-released-are-you-effing-kidding-me/342469/6 "2006-02-01T04:30:58Z")
Ah… okay, I must have misunderstood the intent of the article. What was stated made it seem like they were simply out – no mention of a trial or anything was made. I s’pose in hearing the initial announcement of the news piece and subsequent lookup on the net, such was my sudden ire that I failed to think far enough ahead to the idea that they would be going to trial to answer to the charges. Yes, this is the consequence of getting way too little sleep this week. (_You_ try sleeping with a female cat in heat! :P) Personally though, I think they should have stayed in jail. I know the whole bail release before trial thing is SOP, but man… the whole incident was so unbelievably stupid that they really need to be put away wholesale. Just deduct time served from the sentence and be done with it. ---
**Author:** ![Queuing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/90ced4/32.png) [@Queuing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Queuing)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/killer-street-racers-released-are-you-effing-kidding-me/342469/7 "2006-02-01T04:38:56Z")
Time served previuos to being actually convicted is generally given at a 2 to 1 rate, so every week pre-trial served is as good as 2 weeks. Therefore I don’t mind they got out on bail. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/killer-street-racers-released-are-you-effing-kidding-me/342469/8 "2006-02-01T04:40:25Z")
> [@Mindfield](#): > > …You\* try sleeping with a female cat in heat!.. Completely off-topic, but unless you plan to breed her, I highly recommend that you have her spayed. You’ll be happier, she’ll be happier and she’ll have fewer health problems down the road. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/killer-street-racers-released-are-you-effing-kidding-me/342469/9 "2006-02-01T04:41:23Z")
> [@Mindfield](#): > > (_You_ try sleeping with a female cat in heat! You do realize that statement can have two meanings, don’t you? ---
**Author:** ![Palooka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/palooka/32/2902_2.png) [@Palooka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palooka)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/killer-street-racers-released-are-you-effing-kidding-me/342469/10 "2006-02-01T04:41:56Z")
> [@Mindfield](#): > > _You_ try sleeping with a female cat in heat! Dude. This is not appropriate behaviour. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/killer-street-racers-released-are-you-effing-kidding-me/342469/11 "2006-02-01T04:47:49Z")
> [@Mindfield](#): > > This horse is already feeding the local fauna. Just a little possible nitpick: I suspect you mean flora. There may, of course, actually be animals eating the dead horse; I think you meant that it is pushing up the daisies, though. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/killer-street-racers-released-are-you-effing-kidding-me/342469/12 "2006-02-01T05:37:42Z")
> [@saoirse](#): > > Just a little possible nitpick: > > I suspect you mean flora. There may, of course, actually be animals eating the dead horse; I think you meant that it is pushing up the daisies, though. Could he have meant its feeding the worms? Just as common a saying. . . ---
**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/killer-street-racers-released-are-you-effing-kidding-me/342469/13 "2006-02-01T06:34:52Z")
> [@Mindfield](#): > > …wind shear from excessive speeds yanked their spongiformed brains from their concrete craniums through their cavernous ears… Wonderful phrasing. ---
**Author:** ![threemae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f9b8f/32.png) [@threemae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/threemae)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/killer-street-racers-released-are-you-effing-kidding-me/342469/14 "2006-02-01T06:42:12Z")
> [@Palooka](#): > > Dude. This is not appropriate behaviour. :eek: The dirty little minds of the Dope, they never let me down, do they? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/killer-street-racers-released-are-you-effing-kidding-me/342469/15 "2006-02-01T07:01:54Z")
I don’t object to them getting bail, but I’m anticipating an unjustly light outcome. This is Canada, after all, home of the “24 hours less a day” sentence. ---
**Author:** ![Leviosaurus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/439d5e/32.png) [@Leviosaurus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leviosaurus)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/killer-street-racers-released-are-you-effing-kidding-me/342469/16 "2006-02-01T07:07:15Z")
I don’t know Canadian law, but they are presumed innocent until proven guilty, right? Granted, they’re guilty, but that has to be presented in court first. Does Canada work the same as the US in this respect? ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Violaceous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2bfe46/32.png) [@Miss\_Violaceous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miss_Violaceous)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/killer-street-racers-released-are-you-effing-kidding-me/342469/17 "2006-02-01T07:40:11Z")
> [@saoirse](#): > > Just a little possible nitpick: > > I suspect you mean flora. There may, of course, actually be animals eating the dead horse; I think you meant that it is pushing up the daisies, though. The fauna are eating the flora. And the circle of life is complete. ---
**Author:** ![Amaranta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Amaranta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amaranta)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 8:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/killer-street-racers-released-are-you-effing-kidding-me/342469/18 "2006-02-01T08:19:54Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > Unless they try to flee, in which case I’d assume the Mounties are free to shoot them. Can I hijack for a sec to ask a question? What exactly do y’all think Mounties do? ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/killer-street-racers-released-are-you-effing-kidding-me/342469/19 "2006-02-01T08:29:59Z")
> [@amaranta](#): > > Can I hijack for a sec to ask a question? What exactly do y’all think Mounties do? From what I understand the RCMP is the national police force of Canada. That originally they were created to help maintain law and order in the sparsely populated Canadian west, as well as to assert Canadian sovereignty in the area in the face of American trades and smugglers who frequently were in the region. As the national police force they deal with federal crimes, and I also undestand that many of the provinces and territories also have the RCMP serve as their provincial/territorial police, and that some cities do the same. So basically, they’re “a large police force in Canada who serve over various jurisdiction, federal, state, and municipal” I have no idea if they deal with hunting down fugitives or if there is a specialized branch of law enforcement in Canada that deals with fugitives. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 8:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/killer-street-racers-released-are-you-effing-kidding-me/342469/20 "2006-02-01T08:59:33Z")
But it’s Canada. So no guns. The Mounties are limited to yelling “Stop, eh!” at fleeing suspects. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/killer-street-racers-released-are-you-effing-kidding-me/342469.md?page=2)