# Killer Walks. Eve Not Happy.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/killer-walks-eve-not-happy/130263>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 30, 2002, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/killer-walks-eve-not-happy/130263 "2002-09-30T15:27:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Lb\_smooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9d8465/32.png) [@Lb\_smooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lb_smooth)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/killer-walks-eve-not-happy/130263/81 "2017-03-17T04:59:31Z")

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Just buy the film when its released

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**Author:** ![Debillw3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@Debillw3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debillw3)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/killer-walks-eve-not-happy/130263/82 "2017-03-17T05:00:55Z")

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> [@Lb\_smooth](#):
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> The evidence that was withheld, would have lead to the defendant never getting arrested or even going to trail.

Let’s take another look at what you said:

> [@Lb\_smooth](#):
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> Little Nemo the lawsuit was file to withheld evidence during the trail…

Grammatical issues aside, in the context you presented, that pretty clearly says that the evidence was withheld during the trial, not beforehand.

So which is it?

> [@Lb\_smooth](#):
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> All this will be covered in the film. I will be back on this site when we release it. Hopefully you will buy it

> [@Lb\_smooth](#):
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> Just buy the film when its released

Ohhhhhhhh, you’re a shill! Now it all makes sense!

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**Author:** ![Lb\_smooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9d8465/32.png) [@Lb\_smooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lb_smooth)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/killer-walks-eve-not-happy/130263/83 "2017-03-17T05:01:24Z")

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Btw up until recently , I had no reason look this up,

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**Author:** ![RobDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f07891/32.png) [@RobDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RobDog)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/killer-walks-eve-not-happy/130263/84 "2017-03-17T05:02:16Z")

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Disappointed. Thought thread was going to be about really great hiking routes.

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**Author:** ![Debillw3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@Debillw3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debillw3)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/killer-walks-eve-not-happy/130263/85 "2017-03-17T05:02:41Z")

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> [@Lb\_smooth](#):
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> Btw up until recently , I had no reason look this up,

Well, yeah, cuz you didn’t have a movie to promote!

“after 15 years …after his lawsuit was settled with the city it was time for the truth to come out” my ass.

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**Author:** ![Lb\_smooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9d8465/32.png) [@Lb\_smooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lb_smooth)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/killer-walks-eve-not-happy/130263/86 "2017-03-17T05:04:57Z")

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lol I’m a shill? That’s pretty funny coming from an internet loser trying to pretend to be a internet lawyer on a 15 year obsolete message board lol

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**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/killer-walks-eve-not-happy/130263/87 "2017-03-17T05:05:41Z")

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> [@Lb\_smooth](#):
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> Just buy the film when its released

Odds are that none of us will even torrent it.

ETA: Added quoted text

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**Author:** ![Debillw3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@Debillw3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debillw3)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/killer-walks-eve-not-happy/130263/88 "2017-03-17T05:08:44Z")

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> [@Lb\_smooth](#):
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> lol I’m a shill? That’s pretty funny coming from an internet loser trying to pretend to be a internet lawyer on a 15 year obsolete message board lol

Still feel good about giving this guy the benefit of the doubt, **Crazyhorse**?

Even after I took your advice and explained elements of board etiquette…

Should we start the banning clock or is this coincidentally being in the Pit enough of a shield?

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**Author:** ![Lb\_smooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9d8465/32.png) [@Lb\_smooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lb_smooth)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/killer-walks-eve-not-happy/130263/89 "2017-03-17T05:10:39Z")

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You truly are a loser lmao

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/killer-walks-eve-not-happy/130263/90 "2017-03-17T05:14:35Z")

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> [@Lb\_smooth](#):
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> I googled search his name and this site come up. The point is none of you were involved in the case or know anyone involved in the case. I read Eva’s comments which were not only totally way off base, but were unbelievably inaccurate. I sat in the courtroom everyday, I actually know the facts of the case unlike all of you who are just voicing your opinions on something you know nothing about. Now we are in the process of working on a independent film about the case and Eva comments will be use on how misinformed most people were. Was that coherent enough?

**Lb smooth** , if you intend to use **Eve’s** comments in your movie, may I suggest you read the privacy policy first?

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By this, you may not use anything posted on the Straight Dope without the expressed permission of the Chicago Reader with the exception of comments you have posted here yourself, or for personal use, not intended for distribution. If you do so, you will be violating US copyright law. I think we can agree that one of the first obligations of a film maker is to respect intellectual property, no?

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/killer-walks-eve-not-happy/130263/91 "2017-03-17T05:16:55Z")

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> [@Debillw3](#):
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> Still feel good about giving this guy the benefit of the doubt, **Crazyhorse**?
> 
> Even after I took your advice and explained elements of board etiquette…
> 
> Should we start the banning clock or is this coincidentally being in the Pit enough of a shield?

One is not supposed to use the board to promote one’s commercial ventures (except for the Marketplace forum), so he might earn a warning for that, or maybe just a note since he is new.

If, as appears to be the case, he is a one-trick pony, he probably won’t be banned just for this thread.

What’s funny is that apparently he thought that he would have a big market for his purported “film” on this forum (based on a 14-year old thread that wasn’t that long to begin with), and that he would develop that market by hurling insults and invective. Unclear on the concept doesn’t begin to cover it.

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**Author:** ![Crazyhorse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazyhorse/32/31_2.png) [@Crazyhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazyhorse)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/killer-walks-eve-not-happy/130263/92 "2017-03-17T05:20:46Z")

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> [@Debillw3](#):
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> Still feel good about giving this guy the benefit of the doubt, **Crazyhorse**?
> 
> Even after I took your advice and explained elements of board etiquette…
> 
> Should we start the banning clock or is this coincidentally being in the Pit enough of a shield?

My advice was actually to not explain board etiquette but nevertheless… Yeah I feel fine about giving him the benefit of the doubt. The film will either come out or it won’t, and the information will either be credible or it won’t. In either case no harm no foul as far as I can tell, especially in a Pit thread.

I really don’t think you can spam or shill about a possible future documentary that may be shown at a film fest.

**Lb** - This thread is in the one area of the boards where posters are allowed to insult each other so you will get a lot of that in here.

Any info you care to share ahead of the film’s release in the mean time would be great but just expect a lot of push and shove in here and if it isn’t verifiable through some means other than your say so it doesn’t mean very much.

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**Author:** ![Debillw3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@Debillw3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debillw3)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/killer-walks-eve-not-happy/130263/93 "2017-03-17T05:27:56Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> One is not supposed to use the board to promote one’s commercial ventures (except for the Marketplace forum), so he might earn a warning for that, or maybe just a note since he is new.
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> If, as appears to be the case, he is a one-trick pony, he probably won’t be banned just for this thread.

I figured that a combination of that & the repeated comments of how this place is “shitty” and “obsolete” might earn him a mercy banning, lest his account continue to hijack his browser to this website that he clearly doesn’t want to be on. After all, why else besides a browser hijack would someone spend hours an a website that they think of in those terms?

It’s funny, though. He’s in the Pit by circumstance, not choice.

I feel like it’d be a safe bet that he’d be pulling the same thing if we were in GD. The intent to break the rules is there, but he’s saved by his own luck…

> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> What’s funny is that apparently he thought that he would have a big market for his purported “film” on this forum (based on a 14-year old thread that wasn’t that long to begin with), and that he would develop that market by hurling insults and invective. Unclear on the concept doesn’t begin to cover it.

Perhaps he went to the “ **russian heel** school of sales”.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/killer-walks-eve-not-happy/130263/94 "2017-03-17T05:28:27Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> One is not supposed to use the board to promote one’s commercial ventures (except for the Marketplace forum), so he might earn a warning for that, or maybe just a note since he is new.

And he has to be a paid member, too, doesn’t he? Guests can’t start threads in the Marketplace.

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**Author:** ![Debillw3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@Debillw3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debillw3)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/killer-walks-eve-not-happy/130263/95 "2017-03-17T05:33:47Z")

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> [@Crazyhorse](#):
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> My advice was actually to not explain board etiquette but nevertheless…

I thought about this & I have to disagree. If one doesn’t explain board etiquette, some people will never understand it. Someone who doesn’t know they’re doing something wrong has no reason to not continue doing it.

The issue is in how it’s explained.

After our conversation up-thread, I saw your point & rather than continue to feed the fire, I opted to explain it in context, rather than as a poster taking issue with another poster.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/killer-walks-eve-not-happy/130263/96 "2017-03-17T05:43:17Z")

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> [@Debillw3](#):
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> Perhaps he went to the “ **russian heel** school of sales”.

Thanks, I needed that.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/killer-walks-eve-not-happy/130263/97 "2017-03-17T10:57:59Z")

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There haven’t been many Claymation films released of late!

(Hope I didn’t let the cat outa the bag, **Lb** )

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/killer-walks-eve-not-happy/130263/98 "2017-03-17T11:34:24Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> **Lb smooth** , if you intend to use **Eve’s** comments in your movie, may I suggest you read the privacy policy first?
> 
> [http://www.straightdope.com/pages/privacy](http://www.straightdope.com/pages/privacy)
> 
> By this, you may not use anything posted on the Straight Dope without the expressed permission of the Chicago Reader with the exception of comments you have posted here yourself, or for personal use, not intended for distribution. If you do so, you will be violating US copyright law. I think we can agree that one of the first obligations of a film maker is to respect intellectual property, no?

Well…

The fair use doctrine in copyright law protects brief excerpts of copyrighted works for purposes such as criticism, parody, news reporting, research. . . . and commentary.

So I’m not as sanguine as you seem to be that the proposed use is violative of copyright law.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/killer-walks-eve-not-happy/130263/99 "2017-03-17T12:00:12Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> Well…
> 
> The fair use doctrine in copyright law protects brief excerpts of copyrighted works for purposes such as criticism, parody, news reporting, research. . . . and commentary.
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> So I’m not as sanguine as you seem to be that the proposed use is violative of copyright law.

I will bow to your professional expertise. I’m not a lawyer, so I yield the floor to you.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/killer-walks-eve-not-happy/130263/100 "2017-03-17T12:21:03Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> Well…
> 
> The fair use doctrine in copyright law protects brief excerpts of copyrighted works for purposes such as criticism, parody, news reporting, research. . . . and commentary.
> 
> So I’m not as sanguine as you seem to be that the proposed use is violative of copyright law.

But would that be a “brief excerpt” of the entire thread or of any individual post?

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