# Kim and Trump - "back to square one"
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-and-trump-back-to-square-one/827075
**Category:** Politics & Elections
**Created:** [January 2, 2019, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-and-trump-back-to-square-one/827075 "2019-01-02T01:52:43Z")
**Posts on this page:** 8
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### Author:  [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)
#### Post date: [January 2, 2019, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-and-trump-back-to-square-one/827075/1 "2019-01-02T01:52:43Z")
No one can be surprised to learn that US-Korea (nuclear) relations are little changed, if at all, since [Trump declared his love for Kim](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-usa-trump/we-fell-in-love-trump-swoons-over-letters-from-north-koreas-kim-idUSKCN1MA03Q).
[This NYT article](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/01/world/asia/kim-trump-nuclear.html) describes the current state of affairs following Kim’s version of a fireside chat to the nation. Basically Kim told Trump to ‘shit or get off the pot’.
Cynic that I am, I believe Kim has deliberately handed Trump a platform to burn from - ‘support me, folks, this is our only chance to break North Korea’s nuclear button’.
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### Author:  [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)
#### Post date: [January 2, 2019, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-and-trump-back-to-square-one/827075/2 "2019-01-02T02:30:43Z")
What’s “a platform to burn from”? Is that good or bad?
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### Author:  [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)
#### Post date: [January 2, 2019, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-and-trump-back-to-square-one/827075/3 "2019-01-02T02:58:00Z")
> [@digs](#):
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> What’s “a platform to burn from”? Is that good or bad?
It depends who goes up in its flames.
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### Author:  [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)
#### Post date: [January 2, 2019, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-and-trump-back-to-square-one/827075/4 "2019-01-02T03:09:37Z")
Like an allen wrench for linoleum, amirite?
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### Author:  [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)
#### Post date: [January 2, 2019, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-and-trump-back-to-square-one/827075/5 "2019-01-02T15:17:19Z")
Was there any more than a pretense of having left square one to begin with?
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### Author:  [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)
#### Post date: [January 2, 2019, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-and-trump-back-to-square-one/827075/6 "2019-01-02T16:59:54Z")
So there are more inmates that the Kardashians want pardoned? Wait, what?
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### Author:  [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)
#### Post date: [January 2, 2019, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-and-trump-back-to-square-one/827075/7 "2019-01-02T19:04:06Z")
So, I guess Chump has to cancel his air tickets to Sweden?
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### Author:  [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)
#### Post date: [January 4, 2019, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-and-trump-back-to-square-one/827075/8 "2019-01-04T21:10:46Z")
It’s amusing when two people who lie constantly try to negotiate.