# Kim Davis asks Supreme Court to overturn gay marriage ruling of 2015 **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 11, 2025, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-davis-asks-supreme-court-to-overturn-gay-marriage-ruling-of-2015/1021943 "2025-08-11T21:51:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-davis-asks-supreme-court-to-overturn-gay-marriage-ruling-of-2015/1021943/301 "2025-11-10T16:33:26Z")
Thomas is already pretty much on record in favor of overturning _Obergefell_, and Alito never met a personal liberty he didn’t want to eliminate; I wonder who the third vote (assuming there was one) might have been? I’m guessing Kavanaugh, but — as noted — it’s immaterial. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-davis-asks-supreme-court-to-overturn-gay-marriage-ruling-of-2015/1021943/302 "2025-11-10T16:43:11Z")
Are there any more cases about this percolating up? Maybe they are waiting for what they perceive to be a better one. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-davis-asks-supreme-court-to-overturn-gay-marriage-ruling-of-2015/1021943/303 "2025-11-10T17:51:01Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > Thomas is already pretty much on record in favor of overturning _Obergefell_, and Alito never met a personal liberty he didn’t want to eliminate; I wonder who the third vote (assuming there was one) might have been? I’m guessing Kavanaugh, but — as noted — it’s immaterial. Is there any reason to believe there were three votes to hear the case? The WSJ article doesn’t give a vote, but does say that this case has a lot of procedural issues that made it unlikely to prevail even if they heard it. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-davis-asks-supreme-court-to-overturn-gay-marriage-ruling-of-2015/1021943/304 "2025-11-10T17:52:29Z")
I would have to go searching for it, but the report I read said it was only Thomas in favor and no other Judge joined him. ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-davis-asks-supreme-court-to-overturn-gay-marriage-ruling-of-2015/1021943/305 "2025-11-10T18:02:56Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > I’m not saying I like Coney Barrett or agree with her on all of her decision, but she has surprised me that she is trying to make an effort to be fair & balanced . Barrett is already pretty much a swing vote, and **[she’s getting close to being an honorary liberal justice](https://statuskuo.substack.com/p/did-scotus-just-reveal-its-line-in)** (scroll down to the _ **“IEEPA doesn’t actually say “tariff” anywhere in it”** _ section). ---
**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-davis-asks-supreme-court-to-overturn-gay-marriage-ruling-of-2015/1021943/306 "2025-11-10T18:57:02Z")
Hmm, will Kim still get her fees waived? Yeah, I’m a cynic. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-davis-asks-supreme-court-to-overturn-gay-marriage-ruling-of-2015/1021943/307 "2025-11-10T21:51:44Z")
“Supreme Court endorses same-sex coitus; tells Kim Davis to go fuck herself.” ---
**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-davis-asks-supreme-court-to-overturn-gay-marriage-ruling-of-2015/1021943/308 "2025-11-10T22:50:47Z")
Someone on FB commented, “Kim Davis demanded to talk to the Supreme Court’s manager”. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-davis-asks-supreme-court-to-overturn-gay-marriage-ruling-of-2015/1021943/309 "2025-11-10T22:54:22Z")
That used to be funny…but now it might be a reference to Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-davis-asks-supreme-court-to-overturn-gay-marriage-ruling-of-2015/1021943/310 "2025-11-10T22:56:28Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > I’m not saying I like Coney Barrett or agree with her on all of her decision, but she has surprised me that she is trying to make an effort to be fair & balanced. Can we pause for a brief moment of celebratory [I told you so](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-davis-asks-supreme-court-to-overturn-gay-marriage-ruling-of-2015/1021943/274) 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-davis-asks-supreme-court-to-overturn-gay-marriage-ruling-of-2015/1021943/311 "2025-11-10T23:17:23Z")
Did SCOTUS give a reason other than “It’s too soon, just 10 years, for us to overturn stare decisis?” ---
**Author:** ![doreen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/858c86/32.png) [@doreen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doreen)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-davis-asks-supreme-court-to-overturn-gay-marriage-ruling-of-2015/1021943/312 "2025-11-10T23:33:12Z")
Nope - they just denied cert. They don’t normally give a reason for that. But there are plenty of reasons why they might turn this particular case down and wait for a better case if they are determined to overturn _Obergefell_. The actual appeal was about her claim that she was protected from liability by the First Amendment. 25-125 DAVIS, KIM V. ERMOLD, DAVID, ET AL. The motion of Foundation for Moral Law for leave to file a brief as amicus curiae out of time is denied. The petition for a writ of certiorari is denied. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-davis-asks-supreme-court-to-overturn-gay-marriage-ruling-of-2015/1021943/313 "2025-11-11T00:00:04Z")
They only agree to hear a small fraction of the cases bright to them. They don’t usually say why they _won’t_ hear a case. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-davis-asks-supreme-court-to-overturn-gay-marriage-ruling-of-2015/1021943/314 "2025-11-11T01:55:41Z")
> [@doreen](#): > > The motion of Foundation for Moral Law for leave to file a > brief as amicus curiae out of time is denied. That sounds like a terrifying organization. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-davis-asks-supreme-court-to-overturn-gay-marriage-ruling-of-2015/1021943/315 "2025-11-11T14:36:54Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > Are there any more cases about this percolating up? Maybe they are waiting for what they perceive to be a better one. This is what I heard in an interview on PBS, expressed much more cautiously. This case was not likely to succeed in overturning Obergefell. PBS did not speculate that something else in the pipeline would, but that was the clear implication. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-davis-asks-supreme-court-to-overturn-gay-marriage-ruling-of-2015/1021943/316 "2025-11-11T17:04:43Z")
> [@Dr.Drake](#): > > This case was not likely to succeed in overturning Obergefell. That’s what I’m wondering about: They’ve already demonstrated that they don’t care about precedent or anything besides getting the result they want. So why isn’t one case as good as another? It may not succeed under a court under rule of law, but why not _make_ it succeed? They’ve done it before, repeatedly. ---
**Author:** ![doreen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/858c86/32.png) [@doreen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doreen)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-davis-asks-supreme-court-to-overturn-gay-marriage-ruling-of-2015/1021943/317 "2025-11-11T17:35:04Z")
We don’t actually know that there are five who want to overturn it. We know there are three who definitely _don’t_ want to overturn it and two who certainly want to overturn it. The other four - who knows? It’s not the sort of issue where you could say “Roberts believes in the unitary executive so he will vote this way” Or “Barrett doesn’t think abortion should be legal at all, so she will vote that way” Or “Gorsuch always votes for Native American interests” ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-davis-asks-supreme-court-to-overturn-gay-marriage-ruling-of-2015/1021943/318 "2025-11-11T18:37:49Z")
Yeah, funny thing but the justices seem to care about the actual process. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-davis-asks-supreme-court-to-overturn-gay-marriage-ruling-of-2015/1021943/319 "2025-11-11T18:38:54Z")
> [@Dr.Drake](#): > > This is what I heard in an interview on PBS, expressed much more cautiously. This case was not likely to succeed in overturning Obergefell. PBS did not speculate that something else in the pipeline would, but that was the clear implication. I do wonder what sort of person or case would be considered to have legitimate “standing” for a case that sought to overturn Obergefell. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-davis-asks-supreme-court-to-overturn-gay-marriage-ruling-of-2015/1021943/320 "2025-11-11T18:43:07Z")
I imagine if somebody rich dies and leave the money to his husband, there might be quite a number of biological relatives interested in de-legimizing the marriage so they can dispossess the widower and take his stuff. Edit: now that I think about it, this could happen to me—my gay spouse stands to inherit everything, but my nearest biological relatives in the US are a couple of cousins, whose children barely know me… one of them might think it worth going to court. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-davis-asks-supreme-court-to-overturn-gay-marriage-ruling-of-2015/1021943.md?page=15) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-davis-asks-supreme-court-to-overturn-gay-marriage-ruling-of-2015/1021943.md?page=17)