In the spirit of my earlier post, I will now post in full what Jesus Himself said about abortion:
Our Lord Jesus also said some things tangentially related to abortion, namely:
I’m wondering exactly how you are defining “doctrine” so that abortion and birth control are never religious issues. The Catholic church certainly sees abortion and birth control as religious issues ( the death penalty as well, but the “pro-life” contingent often ignores that) and it’s my understanding that many Jewish groups see abortion as a religious issue from the other side - that their religious freedom is violated if abortion is prohibited.
None of which means anyone should get to impose their religious beliefs on other people.
I will posit that most Americans who are against abortion, against broad access to birth control, and against sex education in schools, are conservative Christians, and whose opposition to these things is tied directly to their religious beliefs, and what they have been told by their religious leaders. “My faith tells me that these things are wrong, and for the sake of defending our Christian nation, they must be eliminated.”
So, even if they are “cultural issues,” their opposition to these things is inextricably tied to faith, making them religious issues.
I get the religious excitement, but in my part of the world the Catholic church is also all big on circumcision.
Forgive me if I treat the religious fervour with the respect they gave my foreskin at age 10 days.
Is using a condom better or worse? I mean, every sperm is sacred, as our beloved brethren Monty Python reminds us, but why take off a part of my penis? It still produces semen.
(Well, not anymore, vasectomy does that for me. That is probably against church doctrine, too.)
Did South Africa have a sort of “third great awakening” in the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries that the US had? Centred around the a rejection of modernism and higher criticism? A lot of the fallout from the modernists/fundamentalist controversy of the 1880-1930 is a big factor in the current political situation here in the United States… I don’t mean this as a snarky comment, I’m kinda curious if South Africa experienced a similar fundamentalist movement in a rejection to religious and secular modernism? Much of the Christian nuttiness here in America can be traced back these events.
I’m not sure where you are from, but the Catholic church has no official position on circumcision. I was raised Catholic and there was no discussion or recommendation (for or against) it that I am aware of.
The difference being if a government official does it, does it violate the establishment of religion clause?
They were too busy fighting a war…
… and the Boers didn’t need a revival, they were always Christian Puritans of a strong Calvinist bent.
“Allow guys to marry” he says.
“Eeeeey… We all got together to marry these two guys here in this blessed Taco Bell. If anybody gots an objection keep it to yourself, ya get me?!”
I disagree because states, company insurance and public school have no place to tell me what religious tenets I must hold. I know they weasel out of it, but when a Christian-based business like Hobby Lobby tells me that the health insurance I pay for refuses to pay for Mrs. Cad’s birth control pills or completely legal (in my state) abortion … that is religious and them telling me I must abide by their religious beliefs or leave the company.
Apologies for my inadvertently sexist shorthand 
. Should have said “allow two men or two women to marry”.
The content of that statement is that most people against those things are conservative. Most Americans who are pro-choice, pro-birth-control, and pro-sex-ed are also Christians.
Where is that? The Vatican explicitly has no position on circumcision. In fact, the New Testament directly says that circumcision or uncircumcision is irrelevant.
The English just can’t leave other people alone can they… Tiocfaidh ár lá!
And i assumed it was a typo for “gays”.
Via 23 & me I found out I’m very Scottish and therefore can now say my people are oppressed.
You may have been correct in this case. Weren’t the couple Kim Davis denied two men?
Either way, it’s all bible-thumping bullshit. For years I’ve said each house of worship would be better if turned into a hospital, public school or a parking lot. Because even parking lots give you more encouragement than the Bible ever will. 
I don’t know about encouragement, but you can certainly get validation from a parking lot.
Even better! Not much validation in the Bible either, other than you are a sinner through something someone did who you are not related to. 