# Kim Jong-il is a fucking nutjob and scares the hell out of me **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 19, 2003, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-il-is-a-fucking-nutjob-and-scares-the-hell-out-of-me/196248 "2003-08-19T18:21:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Sofa\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58956e/32.png) [@Sofa\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sofa_King)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2003, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-il-is-a-fucking-nutjob-and-scares-the-hell-out-of-me/196248/21 "2003-08-19T22:53:21Z")
I’m convinced that the ils really are/were batshit crazy. Here’s all I need to know, and if it’s a little bit of a simplistic argument, well then fuck all y’all (in the nicest possible way, of course): North Korea has maybe [six](http://www.nti.org/db/profiles/dprk/nuc/fac/NKN_FtabGO.html) nuclear power plants. It’s geographically about the size of Mississippi, but with ten times the population. So [why are all the fucking lights out in North Korea](http://www.geneng.mtu.edu/pictures/world.jpg)? I’ll tell you why. Because that dude Kim Jong-il is crazier than a cat with gasoline on its asshole, that’s why. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2003, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-il-is-a-fucking-nutjob-and-scares-the-hell-out-of-me/196248/22 "2003-08-19T22:58:30Z")
I’ll be honest here, I don’t know where NK is on the map. 😃 I have a rough idea though. ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2003, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-il-is-a-fucking-nutjob-and-scares-the-hell-out-of-me/196248/23 "2003-08-19T23:48:51Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by World Eater \* > \*\ ***Tars** , I may have to send over some agents to kidnap you. That way you can explain the mysteries of the font tag to me, and how you made your sig. \*\* {Font=wingdings} {/font} except instead. can’t remember which letter that is, though. QWERWQTGSDHSJDFJDyweysdgas ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2003, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-il-is-a-fucking-nutjob-and-scares-the-hell-out-of-me/196248/24 "2003-08-19T23:52:16Z")
Ok, I’ve recalled the agents just as they were outside your door. Have a nice day. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2003, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-il-is-a-fucking-nutjob-and-scares-the-hell-out-of-me/196248/25 "2003-08-19T23:53:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Dissonance \* > \*\*kills Americans in the DMZ with axes, \*\* Are you talking here about that incident back in 1976? When the two American officers were murdered? I was _in_ South Korea when that happened, serving in the Army as a Korean linguist. Let me tell you, we were shut down on base so fast and buttoned up you wouldn’t believe it. Worked long shifts too, for preparedness. During that period I made a MARS call home, and before the radio operator put me through I was told that if anyone asked what was going on, I was just to say that everything’s fine. That’s when you start to get nervous. We came that close to war I think. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2003, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-il-is-a-fucking-nutjob-and-scares-the-hell-out-of-me/196248/26 "2003-08-19T23:56:31Z")
> [@](#): > > **Tars Tarkas** : …can’t remember which letter that is, though. It’s ‘7’. Which is just how it appears in Opera, for some reason. Other fonts display fine. 7 ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2003, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-il-is-a-fucking-nutjob-and-scares-the-hell-out-of-me/196248/27 "2003-08-20T00:29:17Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by World Eater \* > \*\*So I wonder how this whole NK thing will pan out. \*\* Somebody WILL get nuked. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2003, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-il-is-a-fucking-nutjob-and-scares-the-hell-out-of-me/196248/28 "2003-08-20T00:33:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mr. Blue Sky \* > \*\*Somebody WILL get nuked. \*\* Shirley you must be joking. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2003, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-il-is-a-fucking-nutjob-and-scares-the-hell-out-of-me/196248/29 "2003-08-20T02:01:03Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Baker \* > \*\*Are you talking here about that incident back in 1976? When the two American officers were murdered? > [snip] > That’s when you start to get nervous. We came that close to war I think. \*\* Yep, that’s what I’m talking about. There’s a pretty good link on the murders and Operation Paul Bunyan to remove the tree afterwards [here](http://members.terracom.net/~vfwpost/opn-PB.html). It definitely could’ve gotten _very_ dicey if there had been resistance. I’m damn glad the balloon didn’t go up on you. > [@](#): > > At 0700 hours, Task Force Vierra entered the JSA security compound and moved directly to the Poplar tree next to CP3. Along with the work force was approximately 60 ROK Special Forces soldiers forming a ring around the 16 engineer soldiers from the 2nd Engineer Battalion, 2ID, cutting the tree. In addition, Compay A, 2nd Battalion, 9th Infantry (Manchu), 2ID moved into position as a quick reaction force to support the Task Force Vierra. Behind the 2/9th was a forward observer from the 1st Battalion, 38th Field Artillery (Steel Behind the Rock), 2ID waiting for orders to fire a massed artillery strike. Behind him were AH-1 “Cobra” gunships orbiting just out of site beyond the ridges, then F-111 Fighter Bombers, and behind and way above them were B-52 Stratofortresses. ---
**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2003, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-il-is-a-fucking-nutjob-and-scares-the-hell-out-of-me/196248/30 "2003-08-20T07:58:59Z")
What, you haven’t heard about his obsession with triplets? You don’t want to be born triplets in NK, that’s all I’m saying. ---
**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2003, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-il-is-a-fucking-nutjob-and-scares-the-hell-out-of-me/196248/31 "2003-08-20T12:04:18Z")
there won’t be nukes, just a lot of paranoid posturing. Dictators have a remarkable liking for self preservation. He knows his whole country will be flattened if he tries to nukle anyone, and more importantly, a nuked country won’t be able to adore him like they used to. ---
**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2003, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-il-is-a-fucking-nutjob-and-scares-the-hell-out-of-me/196248/32 "2003-08-20T13:43:34Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by sailor \* > \*\*North Korea also kidnapped a number of young Japanese girls and took them back to NK to teach the language to their spies . They have been disappeared for a couple decades now so these young girls would be middle aged women now. \*\* Actually, it was just one young girl, IIRC. The others (about 20 in all) were adults of varying ages. Five of them were returned this past year (plus the daughter of the young girl, who is reported to have died over there a few years ago). One interesting case is Hitomi Soga, who was abducted in her early twenties about twenty years ago and was allowed to come back last year. She got married while in NK to an American, Charles Jenkins, who deserted from the US military in 1965 while stationed in S. Korea. She says she wants to go back to her husband, but the Japanese government has refused to allow any of the returnees back to NK. Her husband, meanwhile, can’t leave NK, as the US has announced they will start extridition proceedings as soon as he arrives in Japan to try him for desertion. What piques my curiosity, though, is seeing one news report about PM Koizumi insisting that returning the abductees be made the top issue of the upcoming summit, right next to another news story about the Japanese Supreme Court rejecting compensation claims by Koreans who were abducted by Japan to work as slave labor during WWII. I’m waiting for one of the papers to notice the irony, but so far none of them have. ---
**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2003, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-il-is-a-fucking-nutjob-and-scares-the-hell-out-of-me/196248/33 "2003-08-20T13:47:03Z")
“The others (about 20 in all) were adults of varying ages.” I had meant to mention that they were adult men _and_ women, not just females. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-il-is-a-fucking-nutjob-and-scares-the-hell-out-of-me/196248.md?page=1)