# Kim Jong-nam Murdered **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [February 15, 2017, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-nam-murdered/779891 "2017-02-15T07:17:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-nam-murdered/779891/1 "2017-02-15T07:17:08Z")
Wow. [Kim Jong-un’s half-brother](http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2017/02/103_223967.html) really had a bad Monday. Apparently, [two women](http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2017/02/103_223990.html) are suspected; however, it seems they also met their demise in Malaysia. Interesting note from the last link is that Big Brother (couldn’t resist) was traveling on a passport with a fake name. ---
**Author:** ![Evan\_Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b487fb/32.png) [@Evan\_Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evan_Drake)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-nam-murdered/779891/2 "2017-02-15T08:32:35Z")
Poor devil. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 9:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-nam-murdered/779891/3 "2017-02-15T09:04:15Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Interesting note from the last link is that Big Brother (couldn’t resist) was traveling on a passport with a fake name. [Wouldn’t be the first time.](http://theweek.com/articles/465775/kim-jong-uns-less-responsible-disneyobsessed-older-brother) > [@](#): > > Things went bad for Kim Jong Nam when he was detained at Narita International Airport in Tokyo. The charge: traveling with a fraudulent passport. Specifically, he attempted to pass himself off as a Dominican named Pang Xiong (which translates as “Fat Bear” in Chinese). Japanese authorities, who know a fake Dominican when they see one, deported the heir apparent of North Korea to China. > > Kim Jong Nam and his immediate family were attempting to visit Tokyo Disneyland. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 9:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-nam-murdered/779891/4 "2017-02-15T09:24:09Z")
\*_Smapti_: I know. That’s why I said it’s interesting this time. You’d think he learned after the first time. ---
**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-nam-murdered/779891/5 "2017-02-15T10:54:54Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Kim Jong-nam Murdered > … > Interesting note from the last link is that Big Brother (couldn’t resist) was traveling on a passport with a fake name. I guess Big Brother _wasn’t_ watching. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-nam-murdered/779891/6 "2017-02-15T14:40:22Z")
From what I’ve heard, the poison cloth used to kill him disfigured his face so much that positive identification may be difficult without genetic testing. Cue conspiracy theories that it was a body double that took the fall and the real Kim Jong-nam is hiding elsewhere. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-nam-murdered/779891/7 "2017-02-15T15:13:26Z")
Dominican? As is from Dominican Republic? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-nam-murdered/779891/8 "2017-02-15T15:21:27Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > Dominican? As is from Dominican Republic? Or the Vatican… [Dominican Order - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominican_Order) ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-nam-murdered/779891/9 "2017-02-15T15:36:36Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > \*_Smapti_: I know. That’s why I said it’s interesting this time. You’d think he learned after the first time. Learned what, though? Presumably he would not have been safer from assassination traveling under his own name. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-nam-murdered/779891/10 "2017-02-15T18:03:48Z")
I really thought they were just going to let him live a wealthy, playboy lifestyle. I didn’t think he was causing any harm to the regime. Guess not. Kim Jong Un and his people certainly seem to be willing to kill just about anybody that could be perceived as even the most remote threat. ---
**Author:** ![JohnGalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johngalt/32/184_2.png) [@JohnGalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnGalt)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-nam-murdered/779891/11 "2017-02-15T18:16:10Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > From what I’ve heard, the poison cloth used to kill him disfigured his face so much that positive identification may be difficult without genetic testing. > > Cue conspiracy theories that it was a body double that took the fall and the real Kim Jong-nam is hiding elsewhere. So what was in the cloth? Some face-eating acid? A neurotoxin or biotoxin of some sort, like you see on the TV show _The Americans_? How did the killers carry the cloth without killing themselves? Is there any security video? (Don’t need answer fast) ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-nam-murdered/779891/12 "2017-02-15T18:34:25Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > Dominican? As is from Dominican Republic? > [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#): > > Or the Vatican… [Dominican Order - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominican_Order) You know who else has an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope… that’s right, the [Commonwealth of Dominica](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominica), the Zoidberg of all things named after the Day of the Lord. There are _some_ Chinese Dominicans. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-nam-murdered/779891/13 "2017-02-15T19:14:10Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > I really thought they were just going to let him live a wealthy, playboy lifestyle. I didn’t think he was causing any harm to the regime. > > Guess not. Kim Jong Un and his people certainly seem to be willing to kill just about anybody that could be perceived as even the most remote threat. It’s possible that he was meeting secretly with … I guess I don’t know who. North Korean diplomats? South Korean intelligence? ---
**Author:** ![JoseB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/joseb/32/1530_2.png) [@JoseB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoseB)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-nam-murdered/779891/14 "2017-02-15T19:17:33Z")
> [@JohnGalt](#): > > So what was in the cloth? Some face-eating acid? A neurotoxin or biotoxin of some sort, like you see on the TV show _The Americans_? How did the killers carry the cloth without killing themselves? Is there any security video? (Don’t need answer fast) I guess some kind of nerve agent. The operatives would carry the antidote for themselves just in case. There is security camera footage of at least one of the supposed operatives (a woman). Some images can be seen here: > **[First pictures of female 'assassin' of Kim Jong-un's brother](https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/first-pictures-female-assassin-kim-jong-uns-brother-1606683)** > > Kim Jong-nam fell ill after reportedly being poisoned while waiting for a plane at a Malaysian airport. One woman has been arrested in Malaysia in relation to the assassination. We will see what happens… I have read that Kim Jong Nam was under the protection of China. If this is the case… and if it was North Korea behind this… I think that the loss of face China would have been subjected to in this affair might have consequences down the line. China would be beyond “pissed off” at North Korea after this. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2017, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-nam-murdered/779891/15 "2017-02-16T12:48:35Z")
Just saw a news report about the killing. It seems one of the women was wearing a shirt with a large **LOL** on the front. Guess KJN didn’t realize that really means “ **L** ook **O** ut, **L** ad!” ---
**Author:** ![toast\_pakora](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3ec8ea/32.png) [@toast\_pakora](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/toast_pakora)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2017, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-nam-murdered/779891/16 "2017-02-16T13:28:21Z")
Another woman has been arrested, from Vietnam. The first woman was from Indonesia… strange connections. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2017, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-nam-murdered/779891/17 "2017-02-16T13:47:42Z")
Purportedly from. ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2017, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-nam-murdered/779891/18 "2017-02-16T14:46:03Z")
Offed him, gangland style. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2017, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-nam-murdered/779891/19 "2017-02-16T15:55:02Z")
Putin Didn’t Do It! Nuh-Uh…! ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2017, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-nam-murdered/779891/20 "2017-02-16T16:14:19Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Just saw a news report about the killing. It seems one of the women was wearing a shirt with a large **LOL** on the front. Now here I would have thought than North Korean agents wouldn’t have a sense of humor. Did the other one have one that said WTF? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-nam-murdered/779891.md?page=2)