Fun fact. Do you know who else did that? A guy named Barack Obama. And do you know what happened when he did? Lobbyists just changed their job title.
It’s annoying and it sucks but there’s really no way to stop people from being lobbyists. Trump can try, and that’s good and all, but please don’t act like he had an original idea or has scored a victory on this.
Oh, and, the Trump team knew about Flynn’s lobbying for Turkey before he was put on the national security council.
Those jobs are from the economy he inherited. He didn’t do anything to create them, but if he wants to take credit for them (and he does because he’s a liar), then whatever. So let’s compare the last couple of Februarys. In Feb 2015 Obama created 238,000 jobs. In Feb 2016 Obama created 237,000 jobs. In Feb 2017 Trump takes credit for 235,000 jobs. Yawn.
One could easily say Trump has continued the downward slide in February job numbers but that wouldn’t really be any more honest that bragging about his Feb numbers, would it?
These regulations that you speak of would not “improve the safety and health of coal miners”, as you absurdly put it, nor would it have any real environmental benefit. There are dozens of clean air environmental regulations and safety measures already on the books to do just that. The “coal-stream” restriction rule would have
“Coal is a dying industry”. That is the type of pessimistic, defeatist liberal Democrat mindset that has succeeded in turning West Virginia into a solidly red state–you’re not going to be able to save the coal industry if with an attitude like that (and you clearly don’t want to), considering you’re not even really trying. And do you think the government is just sitting on money that it can pay to the tens of thousands of coal workers who would be out of a job? Have you heard of how high our debt is, or are you going to deny that too?
With the new pro-coal policies Trump puts in place, the industry will make a comeback, as other industries have done in the past. It’s not unheard of for an industry to bounce back, which is unfathomable to you, apparently.
State agencies can enact rules to improve water quality, there was no need for the federal government to pass such a rule, like the coal-stream rule, which really did nothing to make us safer.
The stock market responds to optimism as much as actual economic pressures. Not a good short term measure.
Economic policies do not work in a mater of days or a few weeks.
Obama’s economic record
Doesn’t look like a slump to me. Remember he inherited the start of a recession.
When Bush was in office, he too inherited a recession (from the dot.com bubble burst from Clinton), and nevertheless was able to give the nation a 3% GDP growth during his eight years. In his 2004 re-election year, his GDP growth expanded 3.47% from 2001, and voters clearly appreciated it, as he won re-election.
Here’s another fun fact: The prevailing assumption in the American left that the coal industry is doomed no matter how many pro-coal policies Trump institutes is not, in fact, true, as in-depth investigative report from Fox News journalist Johnny Giles demonstrates: Coal mining begins seeing revival as Trump gives industry hope
You do realize that both links credit the weather more than Trump for the job numbers and the first one warns that Trump shouldn’t take credit at all? That’s the thing about mid-winter job reports. Last month, 154,000 more people than average were able to work because the weather was mild.
Hey, I’ll give Trump credit for not fucking the economy up yet, I kinda assumed we’d all be living in the woods eating squirrels by now, but it’s naive to make it a huge victory.
I look at the topic of this thread – “draining the swamp” — and then look at these posts, and I’m not sure if our new friend thinks “swamp” means “coal slurry pond.”
What’s even more confusing is that Trump is talking about draining whatever it is; but the quoted poster wants to fill them up.
Of course he could say no. He didn’t tho, and so he wasn’t fired; he resigned. They are not the same thing, no matter how many times you try and say that they are. Trump had an opportunity to clean up his own mess, and he didn’t take it. And yes, it was his mess: he’s in charge and he didn’t fully vet Michael Flynn. Trump failed at least twice regarding this situation.
Actually, according to news reports, some Trump campaign officials knew about Flynn’s lobbying for Turkey, the half a million bucks he got from it, and that he might have to register as a foreign agent, but declined to inform Trump on it. (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-flynn-idUSKBN16H2OR)
I’m fully willing to say that was bad judgement on the part of the Trump team; they knew through their vetting about his work for Turkey, but didn’t inform their boss? Pretty ridiculous.
Yes, absolutely normal. But, the point I think Bo was making was that he was, in fact, fired - so Trump knows how to do that.
If Flynn was, as you have suggested, a bad hire (and they happen) - why would Trump defend him at first and then give him the opportunity to resign? I mean, “You’re fired” is practically (if not actually) his trademarked phrase.
We know Trump likes loyalty, Mr. Flynn was one of his biggest boosters and supporters during the campaign, at his rallies, and at the Republican Convention. It probably really hurt him very first that he might have to fire Flynn.