# Kim Jong Un Does it Again: Kills His Defense Chief **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [May 13, 2015, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-un-does-it-again-kills-his-defense-chief/719905 "2015-05-13T02:25:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-un-does-it-again-kills-his-defense-chief/719905/1 "2015-05-13T02:25:28Z")
> [@](#): > > South Korea’s spy agency says it has information that North Korea executed its defense chief for sleeping during a meeting and talking back to young leader Kim Jong Un. > > Lawmaker Shin Kyoung-min says the National Intelligence Service told a closed-door parliamentary committee Wednesday that People’s Armed Forces Minister Hyon Yong Chol was executed in Pyongyang in late April. > > The intelligence service told lawmakers that Hyon was killed by an anti-aircraft gun. [http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2015/05/12/world/asia/ap-as-nkorea-defense-chief-executed.html?\_r=0](http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2015/05/12/world/asia/ap-as-nkorea-defense-chief-executed.html?_r=0) Too many people sleep during important meetings and get away with it; following Kim Jong Un’s example would drastically cut this down! ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-un-does-it-again-kills-his-defense-chief/719905/2 "2015-05-13T02:30:21Z")
> [@](#): > > The intelligence service told lawmakers that Hyon was killed by an anti-aircraft gun. Was that on pay-per-view? I didn’t see it. ---
**Author:** ![usedtobe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ec9cab/32.png) [@usedtobe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/usedtobe)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-un-does-it-again-kills-his-defense-chief/719905/3 "2015-05-13T03:10:21Z")
There was another defector - this one was a biggie (don’t remember the level) - one of those “the title IDs the person” types. Expect a string of “shocking new horrors”. Apparently, the uncle (who was NOT eaten by dogs, was executed for suggesting the country get rich enough for billion-dollar toys before the kid built his water park and ski resort (as seen in Switzerland, where he went to school while several million NK’s starved to death). Notice that all the propaganda pics of Great Leader giving advice at (whatever) show a bunch of men in high-ranking uniforms taking notes of Great Leader’s wisdom. Such as “First build Ski Resort, then find source for ski lift” (embargo). ---
**Author:** ![sharonmarie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/779978/32.png) [@sharonmarie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sharonmarie)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-un-does-it-again-kills-his-defense-chief/719905/4 "2015-05-13T04:58:25Z")
A bit strict ya think? Ha. ---
**Author:** ![bb49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b38774/32.png) [@bb49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bb49)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-un-does-it-again-kills-his-defense-chief/719905/5 "2015-05-13T05:51:13Z")
Very effective and it gets the message across. It also saves on severance pay. ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/46a35a/32.png) [@Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_T-Bonham.net)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-un-does-it-again-kills-his-defense-chief/719905/6 "2015-05-13T06:50:59Z")
> [@PastTense](#): > > Too many people sleep during important meetings and get away with it; following Kim Jong Un’s example would drastically cut this down! I’ve found that if people can fall asleep during it, it wasn’t really that important after all. (Few meetings ever are.) ---
**Author:** ![Alley\_Dweller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alley_dweller/32/430_2.png) [@Alley\_Dweller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alley_Dweller)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-un-does-it-again-kills-his-defense-chief/719905/7 "2015-05-13T06:58:42Z")
Things must be really bad in the rest of the country if people are actually applying for the job of defense chief. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-un-does-it-again-kills-his-defense-chief/719905/8 "2015-05-13T08:17:43Z")
I hesitate to ask, but what would happen to a human body after its been subjected to AAA fire. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-un-does-it-again-kills-his-defense-chief/719905/9 "2015-05-13T09:43:38Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > I hesitate to ask, but what would happen to a human body after its been subjected to AAA fire. Not sure but it probably involves a mop. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-un-does-it-again-kills-his-defense-chief/719905/10 "2015-05-13T09:43:31Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > I hesitate to ask, but what would happen to a human body after its been subjected to AAA fire. Depends on caliber, I suppose - 20mm? - and impact (chest? torso?) But sounds unsurvivable. ---
**Author:** ![Paranoid\_Randroid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paranoid_randroid/32/18_2.png) [@Paranoid\_Randroid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paranoid_Randroid)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-un-does-it-again-kills-his-defense-chief/719905/11 "2015-05-13T11:43:52Z")
My experience in this area is minimal, but I’d expect that ‘don’t fall asleep in meetings with a brutal dictator’ would be fairly common knowledge. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-un-does-it-again-kills-his-defense-chief/719905/12 "2015-05-13T11:48:07Z")
I’ve been in meetings so boring that death seemed like an acceptable alternative. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-un-does-it-again-kills-his-defense-chief/719905/13 "2015-05-13T12:09:31Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > I hesitate to ask, but what would happen to a human body after its been subjected to AAA fire. I suspect a buzzard flew in, took a quick look, decided there was nothing big enough to bother with, and flew off. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-un-does-it-again-kills-his-defense-chief/719905/14 "2015-05-13T13:55:36Z")
> [@Paranoid\_Randroid](#): > > My experience in this area is minimal, but I’d expect that ‘don’t fall asleep in meetings with a brutal dictator’ would be fairly common knowledge. Bear in mind that in reality it probably meant something like “passed out under torture while Kim Jong-Un watched.” ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-un-does-it-again-kills-his-defense-chief/719905/15 "2015-05-13T14:39:32Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > I hesitate to ask, but what would happen to a human body after its been subjected to AAA fire. Are they writing of 20 mm, 88mm, or larger that explode at altitude? ---
**Author:** ![hotflungwok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/edb3f5/32.png) [@hotflungwok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotflungwok)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-un-does-it-again-kills-his-defense-chief/719905/16 "2015-05-13T14:56:47Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > I hesitate to ask, but what would happen to a human body after its been subjected to AAA fire. Actually, it says he was hit by the gun. Maybe they were towing the gun somewhere and when it turned the barrel swung around and dragged him out back, tied him to a stake, and shot him in the head several times. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-un-does-it-again-kills-his-defense-chief/719905/17 "2015-05-13T15:26:11Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > I’ve been in meetings so boring that death seemed like an acceptable alternative. Death by AAA may be more humane than death by PP. ---
**Author:** ![Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a587f6/32.png) [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freddy_the_Pig)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-un-does-it-again-kills-his-defense-chief/719905/18 "2015-05-13T15:49:05Z")
They should have executed the guy who _caused_ him to fall asleep. “Kim Jong Un executed one of his junior ministers last week, for presenting 45 boring-as-hell Powerpoints to a Cabinet meeting, and just reading his bullet points right off of the slides.” I’d be going “Yay Kim” and maybe even thinking about moving to North Korea. ---
**Author:** ![hotflungwok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/edb3f5/32.png) [@hotflungwok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotflungwok)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-un-does-it-again-kills-his-defense-chief/719905/19 "2015-05-13T15:56:05Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Death by AAA may be more humane than death by PP. That would depend on how m any of the A’s stood for ‘anal’. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-un-does-it-again-kills-his-defense-chief/719905/20 "2015-05-13T15:59:42Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > I hesitate to ask, but what would happen to a human body after its been subjected to AAA fire. Chances are good he’ll never fly again. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-un-does-it-again-kills-his-defense-chief/719905.md?page=2)