# Kim Jong Un's pleasure women

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-uns-pleasure-women/625730>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [June 20, 2012, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-uns-pleasure-women/625730 "2012-06-20T07:17:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-uns-pleasure-women/625730/1 "2012-06-20T07:17:24Z")

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North Korea’s leader Kim Jong Un receives power, money from his father, except one thing… Pleasure Women.  
Kim Jong Il(father) likes short, small, Asian beauties. On the contrary, Kim Jong Un likes tall and western style women.  
Pleasure Group women need to be 156cm tall when 16 years old, 160 at 20, 162 or higher when 24 years old. The lower body huckle bone to heel need to be 5cm taller than the sitting height.  
Kim Jong Il and Kim Jong Un selected the Pleasure Group women themselves. The women were served at secret parties, and even dance naked, and if they are in the leaders’ favor, they give bed service.  
Kim Jong Un, only 28 years old, while he is spending nights with a lot of women, many North Koreans are starving to death. Doesn’t he know the fact or just ignore it?

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**Author:** ![Lacunae\_Matata](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@Lacunae\_Matata](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lacunae_Matata)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-uns-pleasure-women/625730/2 "2012-06-20T07:26:06Z")

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I think I speak for many people: WTH?

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**Author:** ![Maastricht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@Maastricht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maastricht)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-uns-pleasure-women/625730/3 "2012-06-20T07:26:49Z")

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[Wiki on the phenomenon](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kippumjo).

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> The Gippeumjo is a collection of groups of approximately 2,000 women and girls between the ages of 13 and 40 (although most are believed to be between 18 and 25), which are maintained by the head of state of North Korea for the purpose of providing pleasure and entertainment for high-ranking Workers’ Party of Korea officials and their families, as well as occasionally also distinguished guests.

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**Author:** ![Namkcalb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c89c15/32.png) [@Namkcalb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Namkcalb)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-uns-pleasure-women/625730/4 "2012-06-20T07:50:01Z")

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> Kim Il-sung is believed to have established this corps of women in the belief that having sexual relations with young women would have the effect of enhancing his life force, or gi

err…

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**Author:** ![madrabbitwoman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c37758/32.png) [@madrabbitwoman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madrabbitwoman)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-uns-pleasure-women/625730/5 "2012-06-20T07:54:02Z")

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So… sex slaves by any other name

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**Author:** ![Namkcalb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c89c15/32.png) [@Namkcalb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Namkcalb)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 8:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-uns-pleasure-women/625730/6 "2012-06-20T08:34:09Z")

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> [@madrabbitwoman](#):
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> So… sex slaves by any other name

It’ll be more ironic and equally as accurate to call them “comfort women”

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**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-uns-pleasure-women/625730/7 "2012-06-20T08:42:04Z")

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> [@oclock](#):
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> North Korea’s leader Kim Jong Un receives power, money from his father, except one thing… Pleasure Women…Kim Jong Il and Kim Jong Un selected the Pleasure Group women themselves. The women were served at secret parties, and even dance naked, and if they are in the leaders’ favor, they give bed service.

What is the source of your information and how do we know it’s true?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-uns-pleasure-women/625730/8 "2012-06-20T08:42:29Z")

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Hmm. I don’t wish to minimize the outrageousness of having a corps of sex slaves, but my hackles always raise when I see the phrasing: “equally as.”

“Equally accurate” works just fine, without the “as.”

Also: Kim Jong Un is a dick.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-uns-pleasure-women/625730/9 "2012-06-20T09:37:00Z")

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> [@madrabbitwoman](#):
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> So… sex slaves by any other name

The Wiki article doesn’t say anything about coercion, and mentions them being married off to what passes for the NK elite. Not that I think that the NK government would hesitate to use coercion, but regular meals in a starving nation and a high ranking marriage could easily be the women’s motivation for cooperating, not force.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-uns-pleasure-women/625730/10 "2012-06-20T13:13:40Z")

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What the heck is a ‘huckle bone’?

Also, I would like to thank the OP for bringing to my attention that there is corruption among the leadership of North Korea. I had no idea this was the case, and I promise from now on that my tourist dollars will go elsewhere.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-uns-pleasure-women/625730/11 "2012-06-20T13:19:34Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> The Wiki article doesn’t say anything about coercion, and mentions them being married off to what passes for the NK elite. Not that I think that the NK government would hesitate to use coercion, but regular meals in a starving nation and a high ranking marriage could easily be the women’s motivation for cooperating, not force.

Especially the 13 year olds.

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-uns-pleasure-women/625730/12 "2012-06-20T14:18:50Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> What the heck is a ‘huckle bone’?

I think it’s the reason Twain’s books get banned from schools.

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**Author:** ![Namkcalb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c89c15/32.png) [@Namkcalb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Namkcalb)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-uns-pleasure-women/625730/13 "2012-06-20T14:23:33Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> Especially the 13 year olds.

Actually, those under 17 weren’t assigned sexual duties.  
[Source? A escaped girl who was a pleasure woman at 15](http://au.lifestyle.yahoo.com/marie-claire/features/sex-relation/article/-/7227403/north-korea-s-pleasure-squad/)

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-uns-pleasure-women/625730/14 "2012-06-20T15:02:32Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> Especially the 13 year olds.

> [@Namkcalb](#):
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> Actually, those under 17 weren’t assigned sexual duties.

And the question I was asking wasn’t “is what is going on scummy, unethical and exploitative”; it obviously is. I was asking “are they all actually slaves?”

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**Author:** ![dngnb8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/977dab/32.png) [@dngnb8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dngnb8)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-uns-pleasure-women/625730/15 "2012-06-20T15:06:53Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> What the heck is a ‘huckle bone’?
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> Also, I would like to thank the OP for bringing to my attention that there is corruption among the leadership of North Korea. I had no idea this was the case, and I promise from now on that my tourist dollars will go elsewhere.

Its what makes Huckleberry Hound a _Huckle_berry. Didnt Baba Looey tell you?

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-uns-pleasure-women/625730/16 "2012-06-20T15:12:38Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Not that I think that the NK government would hesitate to use coercion, but regular meals in a starving nation and a high ranking marriage could easily be the women’s motivation for cooperating, not force.

I suspect they’re naive young girls from Eastern Europe and the CIS, lured to Moscow with promises of becoming highly-paid models and then drugged and transshipped to Pyong Yang. :eek:

By “huckle-bone,” I think they mean “hip bone.”

Where did that article come from, anyway? Are there anti–North Korean groups out there paying spammers to discredit the Communist regime? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-uns-pleasure-women/625730/17 "2012-06-20T16:30:44Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> Are there anti–North Korean groups out there paying spammers to discredit the Communist regime? :dubious:

That’s gotta be the easiest job on earth.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-uns-pleasure-women/625730/18 "2012-06-20T17:24:38Z")

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Theoretically those girls can marry whoever they want. In fact there is a word that refers to a man that has been chosen by one of these girls. Supposedly if you are chosen you can’t say no.

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**Author:** ![heathen\_earthling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/13edae/32.png) [@heathen\_earthling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/heathen_earthling)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-uns-pleasure-women/625730/19 "2012-06-20T17:30:43Z")

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> [@oclock](#):
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> Pleasure Group women need to be 156cm tall when 16 years old, 160 at 20, 162 or higher when 24 years old.

Don’t most women stop gaining height around 16? Certainly they don’t get measurably taller between 20 and 24.

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> The lower body huckle bone to heel need to be 5cm taller than the sitting height.

Defined by sitting on the ground, I guess? Sitting height with a chair is always taller than hip/huckle height.

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**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jong-uns-pleasure-women/625730/20 "2012-06-20T17:58:09Z")

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Thanks to this thread, I dreamed about North Korea last night. It was right next to Peterborough, Ontario.

No sex, though.

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