# Kim Jung-un in very serious condition

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jung-un-in-very-serious-condition/852241>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [April 21, 2020, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jung-un-in-very-serious-condition/852241 "2020-04-21T02:29:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jung-un-in-very-serious-condition/852241/1 "2020-04-21T02:29:58Z")

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As if we didn’t need more drama. Tons of stuff coming across Twitter now and most of it from people I trust.

> <https://twitter.com/jonlemire/status/1252422433954381832?s=21>

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**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jung-un-in-very-serious-condition/852241/2 "2020-04-21T02:33:10Z")

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So who’s next in line for the monarchy?

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jung-un-in-very-serious-condition/852241/3 "2020-04-21T02:35:07Z")

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May his suffering be accute, brief and final.

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jung-un-in-very-serious-condition/852241/4 "2020-04-21T02:35:32Z")

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CNN article:

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> Kim last appeared in North Korean state media on April 11. April 15 – North Korea’s most important holiday, the anniversary of the birth of the country’s founding father, Kim Il Sung – came and went without any official mention of Kim Jong Un’s movements.  
> Experts are unsure of what to make of Kim’s absence from any festivities celebrating his grandfather. When North Korean leaders have not shown up to these important celebrations in the past, it has portended major developments. But it has also turned out to be nothing.

[https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/20/politics/kim-jong-un-north-korea/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/20/politics/kim-jong-un-north-korea/index.html)

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jung-un-in-very-serious-condition/852241/5 "2020-04-21T02:35:45Z")

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President Trump hasn’t tweeted yet, it is 1034 PM in Washington DC and the president tweeting around this time isn’t uncommon.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jung-un-in-very-serious-condition/852241/6 "2020-04-21T02:44:22Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> May his suffering be accute, brief and final.

Why brief?

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jung-un-in-very-serious-condition/852241/7 "2020-04-21T02:49:42Z")

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That he’s in poor health wouldn’t surprise me at all, because of his morbid obesity.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jung-un-in-very-serious-condition/852241/8 "2020-04-21T02:53:47Z")

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Another report, looks like CNN has the most information, Bloomberg now picking it up

> <https://twitter.com/jenniferjjacobs/status/1252426458863026177?s=21>

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jung-un-in-very-serious-condition/852241/9 "2020-04-21T03:26:05Z")

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I’m sure that **bibliophage** and **Neil Peart** are following this very closely.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jung-un-in-very-serious-condition/852241/10 "2020-04-21T03:28:32Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> I’m sure that **bibliophage** and **Neil Peart** are following this very closely.

Neil Peart died in January (that one, anyway).

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jung-un-in-very-serious-condition/852241/11 "2020-04-21T03:35:47Z")

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I screwed up when looking at the chart. It’s Mr. Know It All that had Peart. If Kim gives him 64 points it would put Know It All in second place.

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**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jung-un-in-very-serious-condition/852241/12 "2020-04-21T03:37:29Z")

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Sorry for the duplicate thread.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jung-un-in-very-serious-condition/852241/13 "2020-04-21T03:51:00Z")

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> [@Musicat](#):
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> So who’s next in line for the monarchy?

Probably his brother, Kim Jong-chul. Jong-chul is the older brother and at one time was the heir apparent. But their father, Kim Jong-il, decided he liked Jong-un better and demoted Jong-chul. But Jong-chul is still alive and available.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jung-un-in-very-serious-condition/852241/14 "2020-04-21T03:56:36Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> If Kim gives him 64 points it would put Know It All in second place.

There’s a dispute whether Kim Jong-un was born in 1982, 1983 or 1984.

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**Author:** ![Doug\_K](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5ac83/32.png) [@Doug\_K](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doug_K)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jung-un-in-very-serious-condition/852241/15 "2020-04-21T04:00:32Z")

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The most disturbing thing about this is realizing when Kim Il Sung’s birthday was.

Death of Lincoln, Titanic Sank, the Belfast Blitz, Kim Il Sung’s birth.

Why did so many tragic historical events fall on my birthday?

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jung-un-in-very-serious-condition/852241/16 "2020-04-21T04:10:02Z")

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On the other hand, Reuters reports that South Korea says [Not So.](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-politics/south-korea-says-north-korean-leader-kim-not-gravely-ill-idUSKBN223011) The South Korean sources say they believe that Kim is recovering from his procedure at a villa.

NPR, which is always slow due to their mandate to check and re-check their stories, has nothing.

CNN may have been premature.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Mondegreen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/91b2a8/32.png) [@Lord\_Mondegreen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Mondegreen)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jung-un-in-very-serious-condition/852241/17 "2020-04-21T04:21:17Z")

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> [@Musicat](#):
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> So who’s next in line for the monarchy?

Kim Jong-deux

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**Author:** ![zbuzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zbuzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zbuzz)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jung-un-in-very-serious-condition/852241/18 "2020-04-21T04:50:43Z")

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So per that CNN story

- one US official says he’s in grave danger, yet CNN doesn’t quote what the official actually said
- another US official says that the severity is hard to access
- and a report from Daily NK says that his condition has improved

but the headline is “grave danger.”  
WTF CNN?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jung-un-in-very-serious-condition/852241/19 "2020-04-21T05:55:05Z")

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Why does this have to happen when we cannot dance in the streets?

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2020, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jung-un-in-very-serious-condition/852241/20 "2020-04-21T06:26:16Z")

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> [@Lord\_Mondegreen](#):
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> Kim Jong-deux

Okay, that made me laugh out loud. Thanks, **Lord Mondegreen**!

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