# Kim Jung-un in very serious condition

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [April 21, 2020, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jung-un-in-very-serious-condition/852241 "2020-04-21T02:29:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jung-un-in-very-serious-condition/852241/81 "2020-04-25T15:36:54Z")

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It all sounds like a big game of telephone.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jung-un-in-very-serious-condition/852241/82 "2020-04-25T15:37:14Z")

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> [@TruCelt](#):
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> No, she looks mean as a snake.

Which come to think of it, if you’re in the North Korean top hierarchy \*being \*(not just looking) mean as a snake would be a major virtue.

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**Author:** ![dogbutler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dogbutler/32/428_2.png) [@dogbutler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dogbutler)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jung-un-in-very-serious-condition/852241/83 "2020-04-25T15:46:11Z")

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> [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](#):
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> Some second-tier newspapers are reporting “the Japanese media” says he is in a vegetative state.\* Still far from official.  
> \*For Kim, I’m guessing a cabbage.

So ifnthey oickle him to preseve the body, is he Kim Chee?

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jung-un-in-very-serious-condition/852241/84 "2020-04-25T15:51:05Z")

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> [@dogbutler](#):
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> So ifnthey oickle him to preseve the body, is he Kim Chee?

Out.

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jung-un-in-very-serious-condition/852241/85 "2020-04-25T16:16:54Z")

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What we have is an 18-hour old report from Reuters that a [Chinese medical team has gone to Pyongyang to confer with Kim’s team.](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-politics-exclusive/exclusive-china-sent-team-including-medical-experts-to-advise-on-north-koreas-kim-idUSKCN2263DW)

I find Reuters to be normally credible, but I’m concerned that neither the AP, BBC, nor Agence France Presse have either added their own reporting or even picked up the Reuters report. Of course, if you’re looking for credible, independent sources, you couldn’t pick two worse places than North Korea and China to look.

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**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jung-un-in-very-serious-condition/852241/86 "2020-04-25T16:18:48Z")

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I just posted what **Kent Clark** posted. Sorry.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jung-un-in-very-serious-condition/852241/87 "2020-04-25T17:21:40Z")

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> [@dogbutler](#):
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> So ifnthey oickle him to preseve the body, is he Kim Chee?

Hey, they did it to Lenin.

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jung-un-in-very-serious-condition/852241/88 "2020-04-25T17:35:15Z")

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CIA says they are asking Dennis Rodman what he knows

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jung-un-in-very-serious-condition/852241/89 "2020-04-25T17:42:15Z")

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> [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](#):
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> I just posted what **Kent Clark** posted. Sorry.

… which is what I posted in Post #69. People don’t read through threads. :o

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jung-un-in-very-serious-condition/852241/90 "2020-04-25T18:43:06Z")

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looks like only Fox news and TMZ in the US is reporting he’s dead or in a coma.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jung-un-in-very-serious-condition/852241/91 "2020-04-25T19:00:45Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Hey, they did it to Lenin.

What, stuff him like a cabbage roll?

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jung-un-in-very-serious-condition/852241/92 "2020-04-25T19:07:41Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> What, stuff him like a cabbage roll?

[Pickled him.](https://www.google.com/search?q=lenin+tomb&client=firefox-b-1-d&sxsrf=ALeKk01p0X_yQAyqRMjWeNib_Nh3fKGiNA:1587841598116&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=nWHqu-p3hyMbjM%253A%252C1XYNf4oWTwkcFM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kSIWqkgJumtBigRVLbGXMpWrHWtEg&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjg7KjzooTpAhUGX60KHVGiBk4Q9QEwCXoECAoQPg)

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**Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jung-un-in-very-serious-condition/852241/93 "2020-04-25T19:25:00Z")

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The Hong Kong source is reportedly connected to a high-ranked Chinese official. The official passed the news to her.  
It will be interesting to see what happens.

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**Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jung-un-in-very-serious-condition/852241/94 "2020-04-25T20:04:28Z")

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They are saying this leaked from South Korea, possible heart attack, China sent Drs, did brain surgery, patient didn’t survive.  
(Original tweets all in Korean)

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jung-un-in-very-serious-condition/852241/95 "2020-04-25T20:16:09Z")

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> [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](#):
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> Some second-tier newspapers are reporting “the Japanese media” says he is in a vegetative state.\* Still far from official.  
> \*For Kim, I’m guessing a cabbage.

I’m guessing North Dakota.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jung-un-in-very-serious-condition/852241/96 "2020-04-25T21:48:55Z")

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I found [this tweet](https://twitter.com/smotus/status/1254150282436653069?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet) amusing.

> [@](#):
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> There is a leadership crisis threatening to destabilize a nuclear power amidst a pandemic.
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> Oh also Kim Jong Un is ill.

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**Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jung-un-in-very-serious-condition/852241/97 "2020-04-25T21:56:24Z")

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Looks like his train was at his beach house recently.

[Kim Jong Un's Private Train Spotted Amid Surgery Rumors | Time](https://time.com/5827565/kim-jong-un-health-rumors-train/)

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**Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jung-un-in-very-serious-condition/852241/98 "2020-04-25T22:46:30Z")

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N Korea sees the Kim’s as deities. I’ve seen news reports every household has a picture in a prominent place. There’s shrines the people visit.

The news has reported rumors Kim has at least one young child. It would be much too young to take over. I could easily see Kim’s wife and child disappearing after Kim’s death. Swept away by whoever grabs power.

A unstable N Korea is even scarier than one run by a crazy Kim.

We’re living through dangerous times.

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**Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jung-un-in-very-serious-condition/852241/99 "2020-04-25T22:58:46Z")

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> [@Pardel-Lux](#):
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> Just be glad that you were not born on Nov. 9th. That is the really fateful date. Then there is perception bias bc. you follow the date you were born more closely: I am a happy man, I was born on Dec. 10th and only see lots of blissful Nobel laureates.

See post#33.

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**Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-jung-un-in-very-serious-condition/852241/100 "2020-04-25T23:40:26Z")

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> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> Looks like his train was at his beach house recently.
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> [Kim Jong Un's Private Train Spotted Amid Surgery Rumors | TIME](https://time.com/5827565/kim-jong-un-health-rumors-train/)

I was wondering what that meant, but it seems like the article likewise says it doesn’t mean anything.

Would NK do surgery on him at his beach house? Surely they could take him to a hospital and keep everyone in there quiet on threat of torture.

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