# Kim Kardashian: I'd STILL Drink Her Bathwater! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 20, 2011, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-kardashian-id-still-drink-her-bathwater/571985 "2011-02-20T06:04:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2011, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-kardashian-id-still-drink-her-bathwater/571985/1 "2011-02-20T06:04:49Z")
So some people think she (and her sisters?) are air-heads with no talent. Okay, fine, but did they ever _profess_ to have talent? Just saw them on Piers Morgan’s show and was very imboobed with what they had to say regarding their successful business and the way they were raised. They are beautiful young ladies who achieved a measure of success with their looks and business sense, and I don’t see a thing wrong with that. Thanks Q ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2011, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-kardashian-id-still-drink-her-bathwater/571985/2 "2011-02-20T06:55:37Z")
I have nothing against here as a person, I just don’t understand why she’s famous. Shouldn’t the entertainment industry focus on people who actually create something? ---
**Author:** ![lshaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e36b37/32.png) [@lshaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lshaw)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2011, 8:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-kardashian-id-still-drink-her-bathwater/571985/3 "2011-02-20T08:02:36Z")
Well to her credit, Kim actually did go out and do something: make a sex tape. I wonder if the rest of her family kisses her fat ass in gratitude every single day, because if it weren’t for that, they wouldn’t be where they are today. And, I must be in the minority here, but I actually think Kim looks really gross; she’s about as fresh faced as a Madame Tussaud wax figure. ---
**Author:** ![multimediac17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/839c29/32.png) [@multimediac17](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/multimediac17)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2011, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-kardashian-id-still-drink-her-bathwater/571985/4 "2011-02-20T08:36:56Z")
Kim is supposedly launching a singing career later this year (which I’m sure many will dismiss no matter what the music sounds like, as they did with Paris Hilton) so I suppose at least she is trying to be famous _for_ something. If I were her I wouldn’t start singing because unless she comes out with something mindblowing there’s no way it won’t be treated as a joke, and could impact on the money she makes elsewhere. She’s probably better off just being famous and doing very little. I don’t have a problem with the Kardashians because they know they’re famous for next-to-nothing, they milk it for all it’s worth, and I can’t say I blame them. I don’t actively like them either, they’re just sort of there. ---
**Author:** ![Uncle\_Jocko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uncle_jocko/32/2932_2.png) [@Uncle\_Jocko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncle_Jocko)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2011, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-kardashian-id-still-drink-her-bathwater/571985/5 "2011-02-20T17:44:49Z")
I don’t care for the cult of the Kardashians, but I’ll be damned if I don’t think she’s pretty cute in the new Old Navy ad. [Kim Kardashian sells clothes](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98KPM-qR7Vs) She doesn’t appear _completely_ talentless in this ad, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2011, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-kardashian-id-still-drink-her-bathwater/571985/6 "2011-02-20T19:08:51Z")
> [@Uncle\_Jocko](#): > > I don’t care for the cult of the Kardashians, but I’ll be damned if I don’t think she’s pretty cute in the new Old Navy ad. > > [Kim Kardashian sells clothes](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98KPM-qR7Vs) > > She doesn’t appear _completely_ talentless in this ad, anyway. That’s no moon, er um … it’s not her. NSFW, but Google her name plus W magazine for nude pictures. I agree with whomever upthread who said her face looks too unnatural, but the rest of her is pretty much my ideal, real or not. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2011, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-kardashian-id-still-drink-her-bathwater/571985/7 "2011-02-20T19:59:02Z")
I’d be delighted to never her of her ever again. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2011, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-kardashian-id-still-drink-her-bathwater/571985/8 "2011-02-20T21:21:47Z")
> [@](#): > > Well to her credit, Kim actually did go out and do something: make a sex tape. That doesn’t explain anything, though… There are probably thousands of leaked sex tapes of nobodies out there. Hers was only significant because she’s a celebrity. But what made her a celebrity to begin with? ---
**Author:** ![Superhal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Superhal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superhal)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2011, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-kardashian-id-still-drink-her-bathwater/571985/9 "2011-02-20T21:27:28Z")
I dunno why black guys dig her so much. To me, she’s a bit overweight in the butt. Oh wait… ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2011, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-kardashian-id-still-drink-her-bathwater/571985/10 "2011-02-20T21:32:28Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > That doesn’t explain anything, though… There are probably thousands of leaked sex tapes of nobodies out there. Hers was only significant because she’s a celebrity. But what made her a celebrity to begin with? Did those nobodies have a publicist? ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2011, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-kardashian-id-still-drink-her-bathwater/571985/11 "2011-02-20T21:36:11Z")
Geeze, **Quaz** , I might use her pantyhose to make tea, but drinking her _bath water?_ One man’s fetish…😃 ---
**Author:** ![anu-la1979](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/47e85d/32.png) [@anu-la1979](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anu-la1979)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2011, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-kardashian-id-still-drink-her-bathwater/571985/12 "2011-02-20T21:40:20Z")
She used her notoriety to start a reasonably successful clothing line with her family. It’s kind of the same deal as Jessica Simpson. She got famous for one thing (the sex tape) and is now making her money off other stuff, like the clothing line and personal appearances and such. I don’t see what makes her any better or worse than bloggers who make money for being themselves. Thanks to social media and entertainment, there are new ways of making money for people who are otherwise useless but excellent self-promoters. Personally, I think she is very naturally pretty but she’s starting to go overboard on the plastic surgery, especially on the face. She was smoking around 2006-2008but she’s edging into bad plastic surgery territory. The Bebe partnership with the Kardashians was perfect. That entire clothing line is so ethnic mafia, which I’m saying out of love, because I used to wear it all the time. > [@Chronos](#): > > That doesn’t explain anything, though… There are probably thousands of leaked sex tapes of nobodies out there. Hers was only significant because she’s a celebrity. But what made her a celebrity to begin with? She used to be part of Paris Hilton’s entourage and got photographed a lot as a result of it. ---
**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2011, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-kardashian-id-still-drink-her-bathwater/571985/13 "2011-02-20T21:48:41Z")
> [@anu-la1979](#): > > Personally, I think she is very naturally pretty but she’s starting to go overboard on the plastic surgery, especially on the face. She was smoking around 2006-2008but she’s edging into bad plastic surgery territory. Agreed. I looked at some then-and-now pics, and that seems spot on. ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2011, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-kardashian-id-still-drink-her-bathwater/571985/14 "2011-02-20T22:02:33Z")
Anymore, the point is not to be pretty, it’s to be a product. If you’re a nice looking youngish thing and you have plastic, you’re validating very important cultural, esthetic, and commercial assumptions. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2011, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-kardashian-id-still-drink-her-bathwater/571985/15 "2011-02-20T22:07:10Z")
Bet it tastes like ass. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2011, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-kardashian-id-still-drink-her-bathwater/571985/16 "2011-02-20T22:23:31Z")
> [@anu-la1979](#): > > She used her notoriety to start a reasonably successful clothing line with her family. It’s kind of the same deal as **Jessica Simpson**. She got famous for one thing (the sex tape) and is now making her money off other stuff, like the clothing line and personal appearances and such. I’m pretty sure you’re thinking of someone else. ---
**Author:** ![multimediac17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/839c29/32.png) [@multimediac17](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/multimediac17)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-kardashian-id-still-drink-her-bathwater/571985/17 "2011-02-21T00:00:00Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > I’m pretty sure you’re thinking of someone else. I think they mean that Jessica started out singing and now makes most of her money doing other stuff, just like Kim, except replace “singing” with “sex tape”. > [@Chronos](#): > > That doesn’t explain anything, though… There are probably thousands of leaked sex tapes of nobodies out there. Hers was only significant because she’s a celebrity. But what made her a celebrity to begin with? The man in it with her (Ray J, an R&B singer) was a celebrity pre-sex tape. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-kardashian-id-still-drink-her-bathwater/571985/18 "2011-02-21T00:38:44Z")
> [@drastic\_quench](#): > > NSFW, but Google her name plus W magazine for nude pictures. I agree with whomever upthread who said her face looks too unnatural, but the rest of her is pretty much my ideal, real or not. She looks like her ass was stung by 20 million bees. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-kardashian-id-still-drink-her-bathwater/571985/19 "2011-02-21T01:20:16Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > So some people think she (and her sisters?) are air-heads with no talent. Not to mention being grotesque plasticky overhyped mannequinoids who make Paris Hilton look like a natural beauty. > [@](#): > > They are beautiful young ladies who achieved a measure of success with their looks and business sense, and I don’t see a thing wrong with that. Nor do I, if only they’d stop worshiping them over at [sportsillustrated.com](http://sportsillustrated.com), or featuring them on magazine covers so I have to look at them in the supermarket checkout line. ---
**Author:** ![anu-la1979](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/47e85d/32.png) [@anu-la1979](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anu-la1979)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-kardashian-id-still-drink-her-bathwater/571985/20 "2011-02-21T04:34:28Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > I’m pretty sure you’re thinking of someone else. No I’m not. I lived in LA for several years and am in Bebe/Arden B’s target demographic because I fit the profile of upper middle class ethnic mafia of a certain age-they sent me her partnered fashion spreads. She has partnerships with Bebe and makes a shitload of money off QVC. Her family owns boutiques in Los Angeles known as Dash. Jessica Simpson parlayed her mediocre B-list singing career + reality show status into a Dillards fashion empire (she’s a billionaire). Kim K parlayed her Paris entourage notoriety into sex tape notoriety into QVC fashion money. Who do you think I’m mistaking her for exactly? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kim-kardashian-id-still-drink-her-bathwater/571985.md?page=2)