# Kim's Secret Toilet - A Wasted Opportunity

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [June 12, 2018, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kims-secret-toilet-a-wasted-opportunity/815956 "2018-06-12T12:31:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kims-secret-toilet-a-wasted-opportunity/815956/1 "2018-06-12T12:31:47Z")

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Western intelligence could be gleaning nuggets of vital information from the stool of Kim Jong Un.

But he has cleverly hidden it from spies, by bringing his own Port-A-Potty to the summit.

> **[What Kim Jong-un’s stool might reveal, if he would only let us take a peek](https://www.technologyreview.com/2018/06/11/2684/what-kim-jong-uns-stool-might-reveal-if-he-would-only-let-us-take-a-peek/)**
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> The North Korean leader arrived in Singapore for tomorrow’s summit with Donald Trump accompanied by his own portable toilet “to deny determined sewer divers insights into to the supreme leader’s stools,” according to South Korean media. Really?...

Is Kim a vegan? Does he take hallucinogens, prescription drugs or Miralax?

We will need to find another way to flush out his secrets, because for sure NK agents are busy finding a way to analyze Trump’s poop on the sly.

We do NOT want (to paraphrase the immortal words of Col. Jack D. Ripper in “Dr. Strangelove”) to risk a Feces Gap!!

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**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kims-secret-toilet-a-wasted-opportunity/815956/2 "2018-06-12T13:22:34Z")

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Oh, thank Lord Frith, I thought this was going to be about a Kardashian. You scared me; don’t do that.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kims-secret-toilet-a-wasted-opportunity/815956/3 "2018-06-12T13:41:02Z")

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Either way it’s a crap-shoot.

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kims-secret-toilet-a-wasted-opportunity/815956/4 "2018-06-12T14:07:39Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> We will need to find another way to flush out his secrets, because for sure NK agents are busy finding a way to analyze Trump’s poop on the sly.

It can’t be too hard to find a sample, he flings the stuff everywhere.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kims-secret-toilet-a-wasted-opportunity/815956/5 "2018-06-12T14:16:35Z")

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It’s said that he’s too fond of cheese.

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**Author:** ![Doug\_K](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5ac83/32.png) [@Doug\_K](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doug_K)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kims-secret-toilet-a-wasted-opportunity/815956/6 "2018-06-12T14:35:44Z")

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> Really? Maybe. We aren’t able to verify the toilet story.

So we’ll do the responsible thing and continue craft a compelling story based on facts not in evidence.  
ETA: Hit post instead of preview. This refers to the authors of the cited story. Not to anyone wanting to make jokes about it.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kims-secret-toilet-a-wasted-opportunity/815956/7 "2018-06-12T14:47:52Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Is Kim a vegan? Does he take hallucinogens, prescription drugs or Miralax?

We could track his every movement!

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kims-secret-toilet-a-wasted-opportunity/815956/8 "2018-06-12T14:51:13Z")

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Seriously, the NK people believe several things.

1. He has a den of unicorns.
2. He invented the bread with meat (hamburger)
3. He doesn’t defecate. Really, it’s believed he does not defecate. So, if they believe you don’t poop, you better hide the potty.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kims-secret-toilet-a-wasted-opportunity/815956/9 "2018-06-12T18:41:21Z")

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So are we supposed to demand a photo op with Kim on the throne, so the South Korean story can be confirmed? Sounds pretty darn TMI.

\*"South Korean news agency The Chosunilbo reported that when Kim arrived in Singapore this week on an Air China Boeing 747, he also was accompanied by an IL-76 transport plane carrying food, “his bullet-proof limousine and a portable toilet.”

And accordingly to Lee Yun-keol, who worked in a North Korean Guard Command unit before defecting to South Korea in 2005, that’s par for the course.

“Rather than using a public restroom, the leader of North Korea has a personal toilet that follows him around when he travels,” Lee Yun-keol told the Washington Post.

The reason? They are protecting against a literal info dump.

“The leader’s excretions contain information about his health status so they can’t be left behind,” Lee Yun-keol explained.

Similar travel considerations are reportedly made whenever the North Korean leader conducts on-site inspections of military bases and state-run factories across the country. In fact, according to the South Korean news agency DailyNK, there is a customized bathroom built into Kim’s convoy of vehicles at all times."\*

> **[Kim Jong Un brought his own portable toilet to the summit with President Trump](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kim-jong-un-brought-his-own-portable-toilet-to-the-summit-with-president-trump/)**
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> In "loo" of using the public restrooms at the historic summit, North Korean leader Kim Jong Un traveled with his own

The toilet _ **follows him around** _? Does it have little stumpy remote-controlled legs? More importantly, is it entitled to a seat (heh) at the negotiating table next to Trump and the South Koreans?

Urrgggh.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kims-secret-toilet-a-wasted-opportunity/815956/10 "2018-06-12T18:47:13Z")

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I have read that we do the same thing for our POTUS and have for quite a while.

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**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kims-secret-toilet-a-wasted-opportunity/815956/11 "2018-06-12T18:51:26Z")

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It’s [not the first time](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-krassner/excrement-in-the-news_b_24536.html) this has been done…

from 2006:

_The Bush White House is so concerned about Bush’s security, the veil of secrecy extends over the president’s bodily excretions. The special port-a-john captured Bush’s feces and urine and flew the waste material back to the United States in the event some enterprising foreign intelligence agency conducted a sewage pipe operation designed to trap and examine Bush’s waste material._

Queue the Beavis and Butthead laugh. For some diplomatic hijinx, it would be fun to secretly put excretions from other animals in the foreign toilet and let their operatives play with that. Heh-heh.

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**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kims-secret-toilet-a-wasted-opportunity/815956/12 "2018-06-12T20:24:42Z")

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This makes me wonder if the CIA has DNA samples of foreign leaders. With today’s technology, there is a lot of valuable information that can be obtained from their DNA. E.g. what if their genealogy isn’t what it’s supposed to be?

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**Author:** ![Kropotkin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kropotkin/32/18045_2.png) [@Kropotkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kropotkin)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2018, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kims-secret-toilet-a-wasted-opportunity/815956/13 "2018-06-12T23:45:39Z")

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> [@scr4](#):
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> This makes me wonder if the CIA has DNA samples of foreign leaders. With today’s technology, there is a lot of valuable information that can be obtained from their DNA. E.g. what if their genealogy isn’t what it’s supposed to be?

Of course with Trump, if you wanted a sample of his shit…never mind.

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**Author:** ![Springtime\_for\_Spacers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Springtime\_for\_Spacers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Springtime_for_Spacers)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2018, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kims-secret-toilet-a-wasted-opportunity/815956/14 "2018-06-13T00:23:19Z")

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> [@scr4](#):
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> This makes me wonder if the CIA has DNA samples of foreign leaders. With today’s technology, there is a lot of valuable information that can be obtained from their DNA. E.g. what if their genealogy isn’t what it’s supposed to be?

Exactly what I was seeing. As well as immediate health information DNA could show things like hereditary diseases and weaknesses. I’m not at all surprised that world leaders do this. Now I am wondering what precautions, if any, are taken with Prince Harry’s DNA since some people persist in doubting his parentage. Not me, I think he’s the spit of his grandfather Philip.

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**Author:** ![robardin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/43a26b/32.png) [@robardin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robardin)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2018, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kims-secret-toilet-a-wasted-opportunity/815956/15 "2018-06-13T00:33:07Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Either way it’s a crap-shoot.

Talk about a data dump…

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2018, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kims-secret-toilet-a-wasted-opportunity/815956/16 "2018-06-13T01:26:11Z")

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What a horrible job. You get a primo promotion. Come to find out you are keeper of the throne. I certainly hope it pays well. Do they have a union? For better conditions, time off, vacay pay??  
Are this porta-potties better than the ones at outdoor events?

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**Author:** ![Delicious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@Delicious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Delicious)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2018, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kims-secret-toilet-a-wasted-opportunity/815956/17 "2018-06-13T09:51:09Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> What a horrible job. You get a primo promotion. Come to find out you are keeper of the throne. I certainly hope it pays well. Do they have a union? For better conditions, time off, vacay pay??  
> Are this porta-potties better than the ones at outdoor events?

The King’s porta potty that he takes everywhere with him has got to be lush; mole skin toilet paper, robot arms to take your pants down, beverage service…it’s probably nicer that most people’s houses.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2018, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kims-secret-toilet-a-wasted-opportunity/815956/18 "2018-06-13T13:58:00Z")

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> [@scr4](#):
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> This makes me wonder if the CIA has DNA samples of foreign leaders. With today’s technology, there is a lot of valuable information that can be obtained from their DNA. E.g. what if their genealogy isn’t what it’s supposed to be?

Kim’s sister switched pens before he signed the document. Were they worried about leaving DNA or the possibility that the pen was poisoned?

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2018, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kims-secret-toilet-a-wasted-opportunity/815956/19 "2018-06-13T15:07:57Z")

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> [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](#):
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> Oh, thank Lord Frith, I thought this was going to be about a Kardashian. You scared me; don’t do that.

Promted me to think of a Kardashian selling risqué bathroom fixtures. 😃

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2018, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kims-secret-toilet-a-wasted-opportunity/815956/20 "2018-06-13T16:19:09Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Kim’s sister switched pens before he signed the document. Were they worried about leaving DNA or the possibility that the pen was poisoned?

Maybe. There were some stories that Kim was reluctant to leave NK for fear of a coup.

> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> What a horrible job. You get a primo promotion. Come to find out you are keeper of the throne. I certainly hope it pays well.

There are millions of North Koreans who would be ecstatic to get a job that ensures a steady food supply.

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