# Kindergarten Sex **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 24, 2002, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kindergarten-sex/138498 "2002-11-24T16:44:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2002, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kindergarten-sex/138498/41 "2002-11-26T22:08:48Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Blackeyes \* > \*\ ***RTFirefly** ’s right. The creep deserved the swollen ones. > Now my two cents: > > 5 year olds doing oral sex? Yeah yeah, experimenting is fine an all. I’ve heard kids play doctor, behind the swingset “I’ll show you mine- you show me yours” stuff. And I guess that’s fine. It shouldn’t be recommended though! A mild scolding is what’s needed, I feel. \*\* Why shouldn’t it be recommanded? What’s wrong with kids playing doctor, exactly? ---
**Author:** ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2002, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kindergarten-sex/138498/42 "2002-11-26T22:12:00Z")
I never got my peepee in any mouths until much later but once, at the ripe age of about 8, with a bunch of other kids, we thought it would be tremendously funny to play bumper cars with our bare bottoms. And so, we did. And it _was_ tremendously funny while it lasted. But later some grown up found out and somehow the entire thing was blamed on me. So I never did it again in my entire life. You know what? I am feeling very naughty lately. Next girl I pick up I’ll ask “You want to do something _really_ naughty? Let’s play bumper cars with our bare bottoms!” That should be some fun. . . If she doesn’t run away thinking I’m some weirdo. ---
**Author:** ![Flowerchild](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/858c86/32.png) [@Flowerchild](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flowerchild)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2002, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kindergarten-sex/138498/43 "2002-11-26T22:12:48Z")
I said I was sorry after we both sobered up. ::guilty look:: . I just tend to get a little violent when someone insults me with one of those words that you can only use on women,you know b\***h, Slut , whore, god forbid C**t, a guy in club called my friend that once , her boyfriend sent him home in 4 ziplock baggies. (Dont ask Why) ---
**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2002, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kindergarten-sex/138498/44 "2002-11-26T22:21:27Z")
You’re lucky you didn’t get assault charges pressed. Responding to a verbal insult with physical violence, even if it is one of ‘those’ insults, is assault. Someone touches you, you’re legally allowed to use enough physical force to make them stop. But nothing legally (or IMNSHO morally) allows for giving them what could be a very serious injury due to a verbal insult. As for myself, I have wounded exactly one guy in the minerals. I was 12, he was 16, we were kissing and he wanted to go for the gold. I told him no, he tried anyway, I grabbed his giblets and gave a good twist. ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2002, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kindergarten-sex/138498/45 "2002-11-26T22:33:47Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Silentgoldfish \* > \*\*She’s 15, dammit!!! \*\* I lost my virginity at 16 with a guy I’d been dating for 2 years. We spend the year before we “did it” having plenty of oral sex. ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2002, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kindergarten-sex/138498/46 "2002-11-26T22:36:03Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by RTFirefly \* > \*\*He didn’t **just** request oral sex from a 15 year old. > > Based on the description, he requested oral sex from a 15 year old he clearly hadn’t previously been that intimate with before, by pulling down his pants and essentially telling her to get to work. > > Yeah, I’d say that’s a good way to get a kick in the cojones. \*\* I agree, but that wasn’t clear from the first post. “demanded” can mean a variety of things in a sexual context, not all of which are negative. Once we got the description, it became obvious that it was A Bad Thing, obviously. But it would have been A Bad Thing regardless of the age of the girl. ---
**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kindergarten-sex/138498/47 "2002-11-27T01:18:01Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by apotheosis \* > \*\*Am I wrong for thinking that was a vaguely creepy comment to make about a 14- or 15-year-old girl anyway? > > The older I get, the harder it is to tell when I’m being too uptight. \*\* rotten, immature and spiteful thing to say. It wasn’t vaguely creepy, it was blatantly creepy. It was also a rotten, immature and spiteful thing to say. ---
**Author:** ![Eidolon909](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ce7236/32.png) [@Eidolon909](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eidolon909)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kindergarten-sex/138498/48 "2002-11-27T05:47:27Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by RTFirefly \* > \*\*He didn’t **just** request oral sex from a 15 year old. > > Based on the description, he requested oral sex from a 15 year old he clearly hadn’t previously been that intimate with before, by pulling down his pants and essentially telling her to get to work. > > Yeah, I’d say that’s a good way to get a kick in the cojones. \*\* Sorry, it was a request. However worded. He didn’t use violence or coercion. He pulled down and his pants and made a request. She responded with physical violence. The proper response would have been to tell him to “Fuck Himself” then leave. Somehow this is acceptable to you? If the situation was reversed and she pulled down her pants and said “Get Licking” and he punched her in the tit you’d all be screaming rape. I’m glad we’re so comfortable with glaring double-standards. How violence against men is somehow justifiable by context but violence against women is anathema in all situations. ---
**Author:** ![Silentgoldfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@Silentgoldfish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silentgoldfish)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kindergarten-sex/138498/49 "2002-11-27T05:56:57Z")
I was sharing an amusing anecdote that I thought was loosely related to the thread since to me, 15 is underaged. I’m wasn’t trying to start a debate about whether kicking guys in the stones is justifiable or not. Even if I was you’re not the kind of person I’d debate it with. Anyone that would post “14 year old girl” and “cum guzzling” in the same sentence is someone I think I can ignore without missing out on any valuable insights. ---
**Author:** ![apotheosis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba8739/32.png) [@apotheosis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/apotheosis)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kindergarten-sex/138498/50 "2002-11-27T05:57:54Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Eidolon909 \* > **I’m glad we’re so comfortable with glaring double-standards. How violence against men is somehow justifiable by context but violence against women is anathema in all situations.** First it’s 14-year-old girls “guzzling plenty of cum”, and now this. You’re a real piece of work, pal. Personally, I consider it both an honor and a privilege to be found in violation of your ethical standards. ---
**Author:** ![Silentgoldfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@Silentgoldfish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silentgoldfish)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kindergarten-sex/138498/51 "2002-11-27T06:33:27Z")
Also, what \*\*apotheosis[/b[ said. ---
**Author:** ![Eidolon909](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ce7236/32.png) [@Eidolon909](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eidolon909)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kindergarten-sex/138498/52 "2002-11-27T06:36:37Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Silentgoldfish \* > \*\*I think I can ignore without missing out on any valuable insights. \*\* Missing valuable insights is apparently something you excel at. Carry on then. > [@](#): > > _Originally posted by apotheosis_ > **First it’s 14-year-old girls “guzzling plenty of cum”, and now this.** I’m sorry colourful language confuses you. I regret your short-sightedness. Next time, should it occur, I shall phrase it in the sterile terms your reactionary mind can handle. _There are a great number of young girls, aged fourteen and fifteen, who routinely engage in oral-genital contact with members of the opposite sex._ Thanks so kindly, _ **pal** _. ---
**Author:** ![apotheosis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba8739/32.png) [@apotheosis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/apotheosis)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kindergarten-sex/138498/53 "2002-11-27T06:41:03Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Eidolon909 \* > **Next time, should it occur, I shall phrase it in the sterile terms your reactionary mind can handle.** Don’t trouble your little head overmuch on _my_ account, chuckles. I certainly wouldn’t want to be accused of curbing your creative urges, such as they are. ---
**Author:** ![Eidolon909](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ce7236/32.png) [@Eidolon909](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eidolon909)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kindergarten-sex/138498/54 "2002-11-27T07:20:12Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by apotheosis \* > \*\*Don’t trouble your little head overmuch on _my_ account, chuckles. I certainly wouldn’t want to be accused of curbing your creative urges, such as they are. \*\* But Dearest Sir, how else am I to win your adulation and respect? Perhaps the aforementioned oral-genital contact is in order? Best Regards. ---
**Author:** ![apotheosis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba8739/32.png) [@apotheosis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/apotheosis)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kindergarten-sex/138498/55 "2002-11-27T07:27:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Eidolon909 \* > **But Dearest Sir, how else am I to win your adulation and respect?** [insincerity senses…tingling…] > [@](#): > > **Perhaps the aforementioned oral-genital contact is in order?** Tch tch, I show no favoritism, you’ll have to audition just like the others. The line forms behind your dear old mum, a situation you’ll doubtless find comforting in its familiarity. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kindergarten-sex/138498/56 "2002-11-27T07:57:26Z")
This thread is reminding me how sheltered my life has been. Anyway, becoming physically violent is _not acceptable_ in response to verbal provocation. From anyone, against anyone. I don’t care if he called you a ten-cent Liza Minelli knockoff who works the street to feed a raging ratshit habit. Physical violence is only appropriate in response to physical violence. Let me repeat: Physical violence is only appropriate in response to physical violence. Escalating the conflict to the physical scale is a leap of an order of magnitude. It isn’t like one-upping him in verbal jabs. It takes the fight to a whole new level for no reason, and greatly increases the chance someone will be killed. There are a lot of important blood vessels between the legs, and a good kick could well cause massive internal hemorraging. In case you failed biology, that’s a very good way to die. Is that an appropriate response to a dirty word? ---
**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kindergarten-sex/138498/57 "2002-11-27T08:23:39Z")
**Eidolon909** said: I’m sorry colourful language confuses you. That piece of language wasn’t colorful. It wasn’t anything but low, common, trash. ---
**Author:** ![Eidolon909](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ce7236/32.png) [@Eidolon909](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eidolon909)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 9:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kindergarten-sex/138498/58 "2002-11-27T09:06:23Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by LouisB \* > \*\ ***Eidolon909** said: > I’m sorry colourful language confuses you. > > That piece of language wasn’t colorful. It wasn’t anything but low, common, trash. \*\* This from someone who subscribes to Guns & Ammo. ---
**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 9:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kindergarten-sex/138498/59 "2002-11-27T09:11:12Z")
I subscribe to \*The Smithsonian Magazine[/] and _National Geographic_. I don’t own a gun and I no longer hunt. I don’t recall ever perusing a copy of _Guns & Ammo_. I do recognize trash when I see it, though, and what you said was trash. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kindergarten-sex/138498/60 "2002-11-27T13:51:00Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Eidolon909 \* > \*\*This from someone who subscribes to Guns & Ammo. \*\* What’s that supposed to mean? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kindergarten-sex/138498.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kindergarten-sex/138498.md?page=4)