# King Charles has prostate treatment \[Update 5-FEB-24 treatment for cancer\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-charles-has-prostate-treatment-update-5-feb-24-treatment-for-cancer/996695>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 26, 2024, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-charles-has-prostate-treatment-update-5-feb-24-treatment-for-cancer/996695 "2024-01-26T19:03:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-charles-has-prostate-treatment-update-5-feb-24-treatment-for-cancer/996695/41 "2024-02-06T00:54:34Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> I do always get PSA level with my bloodwork at annual checkup

My understanding is that PSA testing is no longer recommended, especially for older men. In fact I don’t think the test is even covered any more under the Ontario health plan.

> **[When is it time to stop being checked for prostate cancer? - Harvard Health](https://www.health.harvard.edu/mens-health/when-is-it-time-to-stop-being-checked-for-prostate-cancer)**
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> Routine PSA testing to check for prostate cancer is no longer recommended for most men. Guidelines specifically discourage routine testing for men 70 and older. But despite what the experts suggest...

Edit: removed speculation that Charles has prostate cancer as the news seems to be that he does not, and it’s some other form of cancer. This is probably not good news as prostate tumors are relatively treatable and can even be benign, whereas other forms of cancer probably not so much.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-charles-has-prostate-treatment-update-5-feb-24-treatment-for-cancer/996695/42 "2024-02-06T00:59:17Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> My understanding is that PSA testing is no longer recommended, especially for older men.

I’m not surprised, it never made much sense to me if the DRE is deprecated. The negative side of the cost-benefit tradeoff is not that sticking a finger up your bum is itself dangerous, it’s the harm from surgical interventions after a false positive diagnosis, and a PSA test would obviously be a part of the diagnostic testing prior to surgery if they suspected something based on the digital exam.

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**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-charles-has-prostate-treatment-update-5-feb-24-treatment-for-cancer/996695/43 "2024-02-06T01:27:14Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> So if the King has to go under for butthole surgery, does that make William the Prince Regent until he wakes up?

Band **RE** -name:

_Butthole Surgery_ (formally the _Butthole Surfers_)

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**Author:** ![FinsToTheLeft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finstotheleft/32/2930_2.png) [@FinsToTheLeft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinsToTheLeft)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-charles-has-prostate-treatment-update-5-feb-24-treatment-for-cancer/996695/44 "2024-02-06T02:15:12Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> A similar wild orgy before _every_ test is probably okay too.

Thank you for the reminder. I have blood work scheduled in 2 weeks including PSA. I will have to discuss with the missus about getting something penciled into the Daytimer.

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**Author:** ![FinsToTheLeft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finstotheleft/32/2930_2.png) [@FinsToTheLeft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinsToTheLeft)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-charles-has-prostate-treatment-update-5-feb-24-treatment-for-cancer/996695/45 "2024-02-06T02:20:46Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> In fact I don’t think the test is even covered any more under the Ontario health plan.

For some reason my Endocrinologist has me down as covered for the PSA. I had to pay for the 1st one, but my annual visit is listed as covered on the lab requisition because I am on testosterone replacement therapy.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-charles-has-prostate-treatment-update-5-feb-24-treatment-for-cancer/996695/46 "2024-02-06T02:30:19Z")

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Makes sense. There are many exceptions carved into OHIP rules, usually at the doctor’s discretion as justified by some specific condition.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-charles-has-prostate-treatment-update-5-feb-24-treatment-for-cancer/996695/47 "2024-02-06T02:50:57Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> that’s weirdly entangled with late medieval theology that nobody really believes in anymore but has to pay lip service to because your country’s system of government is based on a legal fiction that you along were hand-selected by God to be His earthly herald.

No, this is not the case. You’re king because Parliament passed laws that have made you king. Divine right of kings and selection by God fell into the basket with the head of Charles I in 1649, and was then curb-stomped by the Bill of Rights (the real one) in 1688/89. The Church of England firmly supported William and Mary, then Anne, then the Hanoverians. The non-jurors were driven out of the Church.

> **[Nonjuring schism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonjuring_schism)**
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> The Nonjuring schism refers to a split in the established churches of England, Scotland and Ireland, following the deposition and exile of James II and VII in the 1688 Glorious Revolution. As a condition of office, clergy were required to swear allegiance to the ruling monarch; for various reasons, some refused to take the oath to his successors William III and II and Mary II. These individuals were referred to as Non-juring, from the Latin verb iūrō, or jūrō, meaning "to swear an oath".
> In th...

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-charles-has-prostate-treatment-update-5-feb-24-treatment-for-cancer/996695/48 "2024-02-06T03:49:36Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> No, this is not the case. You’re king because Parliament passed laws that have made you king.

You wouldn’t know it from all the ceremony that goes into that fancy coronation. I’m not sure that “Parliament has decided hundreds of years before you were born that it is your destiny to be king” is any less of a psychological burden, though.

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-charles-has-prostate-treatment-update-5-feb-24-treatment-for-cancer/996695/49 "2024-02-06T04:09:20Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> My own experience a dozen years ago, when my PSA 'jumped up" a couple of points, was that the urologist (who seemed very proud of this ability) first went in and did a very, very thorough digital exam, such that he could describe some places where my prostate was not uniform in its shape (i.e. nodes or something).

My urologist explained that, beside getting an idea of just how enlarged the prostate is, he’s also trying to tell whether it is squishy or hard. Squishy is normal, hard (or a hard spot) is not normal and calls for further checking.

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**Author:** ![Mk\_VII](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Mk\_VII](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mk_VII)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-charles-has-prostate-treatment-update-5-feb-24-treatment-for-cancer/996695/50 "2024-02-06T19:37:11Z")

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While the royals have a lifestyle that most of us will never experience, it’s not that special. Most of the one percent have a similar or better standard of living, and don’t have to account to anyone for their lifestyle choices either.

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**Author:** ![chappachula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d2c977/32.png) [@chappachula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chappachula)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-charles-has-prostate-treatment-update-5-feb-24-treatment-for-cancer/996695/51 "2024-02-06T20:12:13Z")

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> [@Mk\_VII](#):
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> most of the one percent have a similar or better standard of living,

and they don’t have to live in a house full of mice.

> **[Report: Mice Overrun Buckingham Palace](https://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=81472&page=1)**

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2024, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-charles-has-prostate-treatment-update-5-feb-24-treatment-for-cancer/996695/52 "2024-02-07T00:24:40Z")

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> [@Mk\_VII](#):
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> While the royals have a lifestyle that most of us will never experience, it’s not that special. Most of the one percent have a similar or better standard of living, and don’t have to account to anyone for their lifestyle choices either.

On the other hand, much as they’d prefer otherwise, most of one percent don’t have people bowing to them every day.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2024, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-charles-has-prostate-treatment-update-5-feb-24-treatment-for-cancer/996695/53 "2024-02-07T00:50:40Z")

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> [@chappachula](#):
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> and they don’t have to live in a house full of mice.
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> [Report: Mice Overrun Buckingham Palace - ABC News](https://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=81472&page=1)

From the article:

> Closure of the kitchens would probably mean the queen would have to move from the palace, her London home, to Windsor Castle west of London if she wanted hot food, a royal insider told the Sun.

The article is from 2001 so they may have got rid of the mice by now, but good luck with moving to Windsor Castle to escape them. Windsor is the oldest occupied castle in the world; construction started in 1070, just four years after the Norman Conquest, and it’s absolutely huge. I suspect that it’s been home to countless generations of rodents for nearly a thousand years!

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