# King Charles II of Spain

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [August 7, 2024, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-charles-ii-of-spain/1005362 "2024-08-07T02:37:35Z")\
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**Post date:** [August 7, 2024, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-charles-ii-of-spain/1005362/1 "2024-08-07T02:37:36Z")

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[image] [Rey\_Carlos\_II.jpg (1852×1413) (factinate.com)](https://www.factinate.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Rey_Carlos_II.jpg)/[image]  
The monarch whose severe inbreeding caused deathly illness throughout his life.

A modern take of his likeness:  
[IMG] [add29c5a46d82b14d0bce9820171982fc319f5f6.jpeg (1600×1563) (zbrushcentral.com)](https://www.zbrushcentral.com/uploads/default/original/4X/a/d/d/add29c5a46d82b14d0bce9820171982fc319f5f6.jpeg)/[IMG]

Could he have suffered from Progeria?  
[IMG] [Sammy-for-website.jpg (525×700) (progeriaresearch.org)](https://www.progeriaresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Sammy-for-website.jpg)/[IMG]

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**Post date:** [August 7, 2024, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-charles-ii-of-spain/1005362/2 "2024-08-07T06:57:46Z")

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He lived to the age of 39 (minus a few days, dying just short of his birthday). Life expectancy with progeria is much less than that.

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**Post date:** [August 7, 2024, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-charles-ii-of-spain/1005362/3 "2024-08-07T07:01:27Z")

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The “modern take” on his likeness hardly even looks like the original image.

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**Post date:** [August 7, 2024, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-charles-ii-of-spain/1005362/4 "2024-08-07T10:55:01Z")

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Also, inbreeding in the family has nothing to do with progeria. That condition is the result of a genetic mutation, whereas the problem with inbreeding is that recessive traits can be present in both parents. Genetically, progeria is actually dominant (but it is still rarely passed on because people who suffer from it hardly ever have children themselves.

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**Post date:** [August 7, 2024, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-charles-ii-of-spain/1005362/5 "2024-08-07T15:47:16Z")

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Klinefelter syndrome (XXY) is what he is believed to have suffered from.

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**Post date:** [August 7, 2024, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-charles-ii-of-spain/1005362/6 "2024-08-07T19:38:43Z")

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Is this the guy whose single intelligible sentence was, “I am the Emperor, and I want noodles!” ?

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**Post date:** [August 7, 2024, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-charles-ii-of-spain/1005362/7 "2024-08-07T20:06:43Z")

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This is attributed to [Ferdinand I of Austria](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferdinand_I_of_Austria), a distant relative of Charles II (but note that the Wikipedia article has this quote about dumplings rather than noodles). Charles II was never emperor.

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**Post date:** [August 8, 2024, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-charles-ii-of-spain/1005362/8 "2024-08-08T10:33:30Z")

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arent all Habsburgers distant relatives of all Habsburgers … some are even relatives of themselves …

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**Ferdinand de Gütige** (Ferdinand the Benign)

in contemporary Vienna also known as **Gütinand der Fertige**

… (hard to parse into english … Fertig meaning “finished, done” - but in some contexts also stupid)
