# King Crimson and...gay audience?
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-crimson-and-gay-audience/800072
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [October 28, 2017, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-crimson-and-gay-audience/800072 "2017-10-28T15:41:33Z")
**Posts on this page:** 9
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### Author:  [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2017, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-crimson-and-gay-audience/800072/21 "2017-10-31T01:00:35Z")
> [@astorian](#):
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> When Crimson played Austin last week, they weren’t at a stadium or rock club- they were at the Bass concert hall, which tends to host operas, symphony concerts, and touring Broadway musicals!
Those have always been preferred Crimson venues - not a stadium. The two times I’ve seen them were in swanky venues.
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### Author:  [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2017, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-crimson-and-gay-audience/800072/22 "2017-10-31T01:05:36Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> Those have always been preferred Crimson venues - not a stadium. The two times I’ve seen them were in swanky venues.
The two times I saw them, they were at Pier 84.
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### Author:  [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2017, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-crimson-and-gay-audience/800072/23 "2017-10-31T14:04:27Z")
> [@astorian](#):
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> The two times I saw them, they were at Pier 84.
Does it have a capacity of more than 5,000?
I ask because I can’t even start to imagine the vast majority of venues on a KC tour holding more than that, completely ruling out the stadium option. “Rock clubs”, sure, stadia - uh-uh.
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### Author:  [@Lorne\_Armstrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lorne_Armstrong)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2017, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-crimson-and-gay-audience/800072/24 "2017-11-04T09:43:36Z")
> [@astorian](#):
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> I agree with the OP. It isn’t shocking that there are gay Crimso fans, but they’ve never had any particular appeal to the gay community.
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> There have been MANY musicians in King Crimson over the years, but none that I know of were gay. And their lyrics never dealt with gay themes.
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> At a KC concert, I expect nerds, not gays.
I’m not a nerd. Good night, nurse.
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### Author:  [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2017, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-crimson-and-gay-audience/800072/25 "2017-11-04T12:49:03Z")
> [@Lorne\_Armstrong](#):
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> I’m not a nerd. Good night, nurse.
I am! So, I’m not insulting Crimso fans!
Obviously, all kinds of people like all kinds of acts. But one EXPECTS a big gay crowd at a Liza Minelli concert. One EXPECTS a big lesbian crowd at Lilith Fest. One EXPECTS a very white, largely male, rather nerdy crowd at prog rock shows.
That doesn’t mean you can’t or won’t occasionally find a straight, macho black male or a gorgeous, feminine hetero Mexican woman at any of those shows.
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### Author:  [@mack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mack)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2017, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-crimson-and-gay-audience/800072/26 "2017-11-04T21:39:58Z")
> [@astorian](#):
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> The two times I saw them, they were at Pier 84.
Hey I was at one of those shows (‘82?). The Alley Cats opened. Much fun!
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### Author:  [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2017, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-crimson-and-gay-audience/800072/27 "2017-11-04T21:52:02Z")
As a point of reference, here are a couple of recent audiences (photos by Tony Levin):
[Austin](https://tonylevin.com/admin_6547/resources/Road-Diary/austinaudtoppic2-w1440.jpg)
[Newark](https://tonylevin.com/admin_6547/resources/Road-Diary/newarkaud1-w870.jpg)
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### Author:  [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2017, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-crimson-and-gay-audience/800072/28 "2017-11-04T22:51:35Z")
> [@astorian](#):
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> Crimson audiences (like Rush audiences) tend to get thousands of fifty or sixty something white male engineers and programmers, plus the few wives and girlfriends they drag along.
Yeah, being a young, female Rush fan is interesting (we have at least one other, **rushgeekgirl** ) in the sense of the vacant stares from your peers when you talk about your favorite bands. Never been to a concert, though. Considering a lot of my friends are middle aged nerd men, I’d probably feel right at home.
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### Author:  [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)
#### Post date: [November 6, 2017, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-crimson-and-gay-audience/800072/29 "2017-11-06T01:43:27Z")
Hijack- did I just hear “21st Century Schizoid Man” in an XBox commercial???
I guess Fripp is retiring soon- commercials and a nostalgia tour sound like he’s getting one last payday before packing it in.
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