Wait a second . . . Where are the cries of what a sexist boob I am? I mean, 90% of the OP was spent discussing how attractive some TV hosts are, with a mere 10% devoted to the topic at hand. All of that background could be seen as offensive, and looking back I would expect to be reamed for it multiple times. As I normally am working on bettering myself in that area I expect y’all to kick me back in line. It’s sad to think that the #metoo movement has given up on me as a lost cause.
ETA: I wasn’t intending to be offensive. I just am sometimes.
Monsieur* had seven children as well( one stillborn, plus multiple miscarriages )but nobody really doubts he was homosexual. He “did his duty” unwillingly and with poor grace and his second wife( who he seems to have been somewhat fond of in a friendly way )happily agreed to abandon his bed once said duty had been accomplished and they spent the next 25 years sleeping separately. Well beyond his life-long cross-dressing which wouldn’t imply much on its own, his parade of male lovers is apparently very well-attested.
Legitimate children is a weak test for any noble/royal just because of the incessant pressure to breed. If we used that as an absolute determinant then William Rufus was certainly gay, though in fact Barlow thought it more likely he was bisexual. Illegitimate children is a stronger test, but still only that there was some cross-attraction. Alexander the Great probably slots in here.
James I? Eh, I’m with the majority - strong circumstantial evidence he was bisexual, but we’ll never know for sure as with most of these characters.
Just wanted to add that Monsieur was about effeminate as you get, but still a quite competent military commander. Easily destroys the old wimpy gay stereotype and is a good example why acknowledging historical figures that were likely gay is a useful thing even in popular culture.
Oh, THAT Liz Bonnin. I mean she’s cute, but I’m old and beginning to appreciate different forms of cute and did you see that jaguar and Jack Russell who are BFFs?
ETA: And really, that show is about something I’m curious about.
Well… it’s OK to like the look of a presenter. Also , we ALL know that some of the dolling up of women presenters IS to make eye candy and hold male viewers. And finally, you did make it clear that it wasn’t JUST about the eye candy for you, you did in fact have interest in the topics and stuck around for the knowledge (I also liked hazards in Edwardian homes).
It’s OK to like the way women look as long as that’s not your ONLY interest in women. You acknowledged there was more than just looks there.
And yeah, we kind of know you after all this time here. For “sexist boob” that was a pretty mild post.
Ya kidding? Who these ladies most remind me of is my late wife, easy on the eyes and the smartest person I’ve ever known. When I have a question about anything I still catch myself before yelling, “Hey Pam, was James I gay?” and realize I need to look it up myself.
Right - the looks might have been the first thing that caught your interest, but you definitely acknowledge her smarts, too. That’s what I’m getting at - you don’t value women JUST for their looks (although sometimes you can sound like that), you really do know they have brains, skills, and talents and in some (many?) cases more of those things than you yourself do.
Hey, I get that you’re a work in progress - aren’t we all?
You do realise this is a subversive parody, right? A parody performed by one of the best UK comedians working in British comedy at the moment. I understand if you don’t find her funny, but stupid she is not.
This is undoubtedly derailing the thread, so apologies, and I’ll leave it there.
Quiet, you! He’s like Cunk’s best [del]marks[/del] interviewees, staring down two kids with flashlights and not noticing the unlit car that will run him down.
And stupid people aren’t funny. At worst it’s making fun of a handicap.
I found Dumb & Dumber to be bad and unfunny, but no I dont think Jim Carrey and Jeff Daniels are stupid. But they act stupid in the film- which makes it unfunny.
My wife thought the same way about the TV version of Amos “n” Andy. It wasn’t because it was wrong to laugh at black people but because it was wrong to laugh at retarded people, which they obviously were. She knitted while I laughed at the Three Stooges and Laurel and Hardy.
It seems this thread has run its course. If you have anything to add about King James I, the Bible he wrote (I have also encountered people who believe he personally wrote it but according to DrDeth we shouldn’t laugh at them), his feelings about gay people (KJV Matthew 7:20 sez “Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them,” so God seems to like them), or anything remotely applicable to this thread speak now or forever hold your peace.
Oh, and Bettany Hughes.* American TV executives claim that nobody watches documentaries, but can it be that they keep trotting out Bill Moyers and semi-retired news anchors to host them? (Bill Kurtis doesn’t count.) Hughes seems to talk exclusively about things I’m interested in. Besides boobs.
Director: If you show a little cleavage you’ll go far in this business.
Bettany, having put on a light Tee shirt and bending over the director: How’s this?
The director chokes on his tongue.
