# King of De Nile (former king of pop) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 6, 2003, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-of-de-nile-former-king-of-pop/153227 "2003-02-06T16:31:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2003, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-of-de-nile-former-king-of-pop/153227/21 "2003-02-07T04:33:45Z")
I think he was showing off in that mall scene. Like saying, “I’ll prove that I’m worth a billion dollars! I’ll buy all this garbage and you’ll see!” I liked how he called Martin “silly” for thinking the mall was just a tad bit garish. ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2003, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-of-de-nile-former-king-of-pop/153227/22 "2003-02-07T05:07:52Z")
Calling the kid “Blanket” was the least of the weirdness, IMHO. I am just feeling so disturbed after watching that. Y’know, I do think that the super-rich have the right to spend their money how they want, and I don’t begrudge them their lavish lifestyles, but seeing how Michael Jackson lives and hearing him gush about how he wants to help children really made me see red. Those urns he was buying were $275,000 each, right? Could you imagine what you could do for a kid (or kids) for $275,000? For the price of that urn, he could set a whole family up in a decent house in a nice town with good schools. If I were super-rich, I’m sure I’d buy some ultra-expensive things, but at least I’d put some thought into the things I buy. ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2003, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-of-de-nile-former-king-of-pop/153227/23 "2003-02-07T07:34:40Z")
I wonder how much it cost him to buy Disneyland for a day, as he’s done in the past? Can’t be cheap, and I can think of a _lot_ better things to do with that kind of money. ---
**Author:** ![Beagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Beagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beagle)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2003, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-of-de-nile-former-king-of-pop/153227/24 "2003-02-07T07:48:22Z")
He could have ended hunger in Africa by not having plastic surgery, not purchising expensive crap, and avoiding lawsuits involving children. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2003, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-of-de-nile-former-king-of-pop/153227/25 "2003-02-07T11:56:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Silentgoldfish \* > \*\*[Ya think?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=124942&highlight=michael+jackson+eunuch) > > 😉 \*\* Followed all the links. Finally heard a sound file of an Alessandro Moreschi recording. Welp, _I’m_ gonna have nightmares. ---
**Author:** ![dragongirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b38774/32.png) [@dragongirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dragongirl)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2003, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-of-de-nile-former-king-of-pop/153227/26 "2003-02-07T13:12:20Z")
Michael Jackson needs some serious help, the guy’s a nut. I really hope that someone takes his kids away before they become warped too. ---
**Author:** ![Mauvaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mauvaise/32/11084_2.png) [@Mauvaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mauvaise)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2003, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-of-de-nile-former-king-of-pop/153227/27 "2003-02-07T13:53:32Z")
I think Michael Jackson’s a freak, no question, a Big HUGE freak. But the way he chooses to spend his money isn’t one of the things, in my mind, that makes him a freak. ---
**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2003, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-of-de-nile-former-king-of-pop/153227/28 "2003-02-07T14:05:26Z")
Captain Insane adds a little more fuel to the fire (a nice Yahoo link): [http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030207/ap\_on\_en\_mu/britain\_michael\_jackson\_11](http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030207/ap_on_en_mu/britain_michael_jackson_11) Oh sure, go after the interviewers now-- its _their_ fault you look like a crazy pedophile. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![SisterCoyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@SisterCoyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SisterCoyote)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2003, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-of-de-nile-former-king-of-pop/153227/29 "2003-02-07T19:12:09Z")
**Tuckerfan** - He’s never bought Disneyland for a day. Honest. (or, more accurately, Cite, please?) However, he has been known to show up very late at night to “shop” at the park, keeping the employees there later than they should be, and then not buy anything. I know. I was there. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2003, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-of-de-nile-former-king-of-pop/153227/30 "2003-02-07T19:18:15Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by everton \* > \*\*Bizarrely, his three kids are called Prince Michael Jackson I, Paris Michael Jackson and Prince Michael Jackson II (aka Blanket). Not the _most_ ridiculous celebrity kids names I’ve ever heard but, well, you do have to roll your eyes all the same don’t you? \*\* Yeah I think George Foreman has everyone beat, except for Zappa. ---
**Author:** ![jk1245](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/49beb7/32.png) [@jk1245](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jk1245)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2003, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-of-de-nile-former-king-of-pop/153227/31 "2003-02-07T19:26:51Z")
Mike is insane. I’m not saying that facetiously either. Where to begin on this train wreck? “I’ve never had plastic surgery. Well, except two operations on my nose so I could sing higher” Does he actually expect anyone to believe that? Does he believe it? Of course, the sleeping with kids is the most disturbing. Prior to him having his own kids, I actually wasn’t too bothered by this. I always saw him as an arrested 8 year old in the body of a grown man. He seemed asexual, like a big, rich muppet. Now that it’s obvious he knows what sex organs can be used for, I wouldn’t let my kid within a time zone of him. Of course, where the hell are the kids’ parents during these sleepovers? Getting ready to count their money, no doubt. Anyway, a revolting, fascinating 2 hrs of TV! ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2003, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-of-de-nile-former-king-of-pop/153227/32 "2003-02-07T19:40:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by SisterCoyote \* > \*\ ***Tuckerfan** - > > He’s never bought Disneyland for a day. Honest. (or, more accurately, Cite, please?) > > However, he has been known to show up very late at night to “shop” at the park, keeping the employees there later than they should be, and then not buy anything. > > I know. I was there. \*\* Really? Do tell. ---
**Author:** ![Super\_Gnat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@Super\_Gnat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Super_Gnat)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2003, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-of-de-nile-former-king-of-pop/153227/33 "2003-02-07T21:04:25Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Rilchiam \* > \*\*Followed all the links. Finally heard a sound file of an Alessandro Moreschi recording. > > Welp, _I’m_ gonna have nightmares. \*\* I couldn’t find one. So I gave up and tried to Google and _still_ couldn’t find one. Can you provide a link? ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2003, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-of-de-nile-former-king-of-pop/153227/34 "2003-02-07T22:59:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Super Gnat \* > \*\*I couldn’t find one. So I gave up and tried to Google and _still_ couldn’t find one. Can you provide a link? \*\* [Alessandro Moreschi](http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000000WYS/qid=1044658778/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_1/103-6242853-7092650?v=glance&s=music&n=507846). Scroll down and listen to samples. ---
**Author:** ![Padeye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@Padeye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Padeye)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2003, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-of-de-nile-former-king-of-pop/153227/35 "2003-02-07T23:39:08Z")
Sounds like someone’s strangling a baby, with a cat. ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2003, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-of-de-nile-former-king-of-pop/153227/36 "2003-02-07T23:40:55Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Rilchiam \* > \*\*Followed all the links. Finally heard a sound file of an Alessandro Moreschi recording. > > Welp, _I’m_ gonna have nightmares. \*\* Aside: Does anyone know where I can hear these in some format OTHER than RealPlayer? RP crashes my system instantly. ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2003, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-of-de-nile-former-king-of-pop/153227/37 "2003-02-07T23:46:16Z")
He spent $6 million on one shopping trip on like a zillion URNS how fucking weird is that? And I like Rococco, but not to that extreme… good god! And what was with that huge painting of him with all the angels around him, and him all naked except for that toga-wrap thing around his hips?! There were parts of the show that I really liked, though. I like that he climbs trees. I climb trees, and I love it. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2003, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-of-de-nile-former-king-of-pop/153227/38 "2003-02-08T01:01:49Z")
Re: the shopping trip. Mr. Rilch opined that, though rococco sickens him, he could easily spend on art what MJ spent. He would need far more than $1 million or even $5 million to acquire Andrew Wyeth’s Helgas, but he could amass quite a collection of the available Wyeths, plus John Stobarts, N.C. and Jamie Wyeths, and Howard Pyles. Maybe even some Gigers and Eschers. The point being that, if he had the money, Mr. Rilch would spend it on that kind of art. MJ does have the money, so he spent it on his kind of art. And what’s the big deal about what kind of art it was, anyway? At least it wasn’t Thomas Kinkades! ---
**Author:** ![Padeye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@Padeye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Padeye)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2003, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-of-de-nile-former-king-of-pop/153227/39 "2003-02-08T02:52:38Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Rilchiam \* > \*\*And what’s the big deal about what kind of art it was, anyway? At least it wasn’t Thomas Kinkades! \*\* I suppose the pointy nose one isn’t _completely_ crazy if he doesn’t have work by the Kenny G. of painting. ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2003, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-of-de-nile-former-king-of-pop/153227/40 "2003-02-08T03:01:49Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by SisterCoyote \* > \*\ ***Tuckerfan** - > > He’s never bought Disneyland for a day. Honest. (or, more accurately, Cite, please?) > > However, he has been known to show up very late at night to “shop” at the park, keeping the employees there later than they should be, and then not buy anything. > > I know. I was there. \*\* One time on _Entertainment Tonight_ they made the claim, and showed footage taken from just outside the park, in daylight, of the place deserted except MJ and some kids. Best I can do. (Disney may have had some other reason for closing the park that day, besides the appearance of Whacko Jacko.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-of-de-nile-former-king-of-pop/153227.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-of-de-nile-former-king-of-pop/153227.md?page=3)