# King / Queen succession \[Game of Thrones spoilers\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [March 5, 2017, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-queen-succession-game-of-thrones-spoilers/781466 "2017-03-05T12:45:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-queen-succession-game-of-thrones-spoilers/781466/21 "2017-03-06T19:07:14Z")
Not quite what the OP was asking, but there is the example of Catherine the Great of Russia, who took over from her infant nephew and his mother who was acting as regent. ---
**Author:** ![slash2k](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@slash2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slash2k)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2017, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-queen-succession-game-of-thrones-spoilers/781466/22 "2017-03-06T21:36:09Z")
> [@PatrickLondon](#): > > But if Charlotte survived to become queen, so (most likely) would the child whose birth was the occasion for her death - and possibly other children too. Maybe, maybe not. Yes, Charlotte would have die without any surviving children for this scenario to play out, but that wasn’t exactly unknown. Her uncle’s wife Queen Adelaide, for example, had at least four pregnancies, resulting in stillborn twins, a girl who died the day she was born, another girl who lived less than three months, and at least one miscarriage. I think the record-holder was probably Queen Anne a century earlier: seventeen known pregnancies, no surviving heirs. ---
**Author:** ![Isilder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/cc9497/32.png) [@Isilder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isilder)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-queen-succession-game-of-thrones-spoilers/781466/23 "2017-03-08T12:32:45Z")
Dowager Queen Sunwon in Korea managed to become Grand Queen Regent to her grandson, filling in for the absent generation . So she was Queen Consort, and then Queen Mother, effectively retirement, and returned to being an active Queen , as Queen Regent . Although as Queen Regent her 11 year old grandson was technically the monarch, it fits as a return to a very similar role after the next generation died out leaving no one so the Dowager Queen filled the place as an adult monarch. ---
**Author:** ![md2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/73ab20/32.png) [@md2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/md2000)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-queen-succession-game-of-thrones-spoilers/781466/24 "2017-03-08T14:56:14Z")
So if Charles had been born before George VI (grandpa) died, would he as next male heir become king instead? And then if he died childless before mumsie… ---
**Author:** ![slash2k](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@slash2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slash2k)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-queen-succession-game-of-thrones-spoilers/781466/25 "2017-03-08T15:59:45Z")
> [@md2000](#): > > So if Charles had been born before George VI (grandpa) died, would he as next male heir become king instead? And then if he died childless before mumsie… Charles was born in 1948; George VI died in 1952. No, Charles’s mother always preceded him in the line of succession. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-queen-succession-game-of-thrones-spoilers/781466/26 "2017-03-08T16:20:30Z")
> [@engineer\_comp\_geek](#): > > Regardless, putting Jaime on the throne would give legitimacy to the rumors that Jaime boinked his sister. Even though that’s true in this case, it’s not something that Cersei and Jaime want to admit to publicly. There’s no legal issue of succession here with Jaime, at least not until the major parties involved fess up to who has been boinking JaI’m is also a member of the Kingsguard, who are, by virtue of that office, disinherited. (Of couse, they’re also supposed to be celibate, but…) ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2017, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-queen-succession-game-of-thrones-spoilers/781466/27 "2017-03-08T17:31:22Z")
> [@slash2k](#): > > Couple of things wrong here. > > 1. Britain never had any form of Salic law. Until 2013, the rule was male-preference primogeniture, in which sons come before daughters, but that did not give other male members of the family precedence over those daughters. For example, when George VI died in 1952, he had no sons, so his elder daughter Elizabeth became queen; her son Charles was second in line even though he had a penis (and Elizabeth also preceded her uncle and four male cousins on her father’s side). Not only that but Britain never had a king named Adam or Cain. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/king-queen-succession-game-of-thrones-spoilers/781466.md?page=1)