# Kingsman: The Secret Service, 74% on RT? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 29, 2015, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kingsman-the-secret-service-74-on-rt/716274 "2015-03-29T15:58:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2015, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kingsman-the-secret-service-74-on-rt/716274/21 "2015-03-30T18:43:15Z")
> [@Teach-me-not](#): > > Colin Firth was brilliant in the movie. He made the movie for me, along with Samuel L Jackson. > > That said, some of the characters were just disappointing. Caine was just wasted potential; his role was minimal and ultimately pointless. But by far, my biggest disappointment was with the lead female character, Roxy. I thought the movie nicely subverted convention by having her selected as the Kingman, but not so fast. In the second half of the movie, she was quickly relegated to playing second fiddle to the male lead, who got all the fun action sequences & all the glory at the end of the day. Not only was Roxy’s task way less cooler than his (_burst a balloon?! oh please!_), she also couldn’t do it but for his remote support and encouragement. :smack: True, but on the other hand, she was never sexualized the way female characters in these types of thrillers often are. No skintight catsuits, no lingering shots of her ass or boobs. And while she and Eggsy became close, their relationship was platonic and collegial. The two of them saved the class in the flooding test - him with force, and her with cleverness. I thought that was a nice change. ---
**Author:** ![Bill\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@Bill\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_Door)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2015, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kingsman-the-secret-service-74-on-rt/716274/22 "2015-03-30T22:27:52Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > Didn’t you know? Brits are IN as villains. It’s the accent. For a long time Americans spoke English and villains of whatever nationality spoke English with a English accent, mostly an upper class one. It was shorthand to let us know they were foreign without putting us to the trouble of reading subtitles. After a few decades of this we just became conditioned to think of the upper class English accent as belonging to a villain, and there you go. Plus, British actors work cheap compared to Americans. Oh and really, Michael Caine de-knighted? A career that encompasses _Jaws the Revenge_, _On Deadly Ground_, and _Bewitched_ is sullied by _Kingsman: The Secret Service_? Talk about straining at gnats. ---
**Author:** ![GreedySmurf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a698b9/32.png) [@GreedySmurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreedySmurf)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kingsman-the-secret-service-74-on-rt/716274/23 "2015-04-01T08:11:07Z")
> [@xizor](#): > > I quite enjoyed the movie. > > When all the chips were set to self destruct, we didn’t slicey-legs girl’s head explode. I thought they specifically zoomed in on her neck earlier in the film and made a point of saying she had a chip. I took it as being similar to Samuel L Jackson’s character, in that they had the chip to protect them from the ‘psychotic’ tone, but it lacked the self-destruct functionality to it. ---
**Author:** ![Cayuga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@Cayuga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cayuga)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kingsman-the-secret-service-74-on-rt/716274/24 "2015-04-04T18:06:05Z")
I thought the OP was going to rant that the rating was too low. I loved the movie. Yeah, with a few caveats, but love nonetheless. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kingsman-the-secret-service-74-on-rt/716274/25 "2015-04-20T14:04:03Z")
> [@rock\_party](#): > > What you don’t seem to realize is the movie is a comedy. A slick farce, fun and stylized, with over the top cartoonish violence. > > I rather enjoyed it. Me, too. Just saw it last night. Some great action sequences, and Eggsy was a charismatic and sympathetic action star. Firth was terrific (esp. the pub fight), as was Strong as Merlin, the gadget guy. Some clever Arthurian overtones. I rolled my eyes at the colorfully exploding heads and concluding anal-sex joke, and was sorry to have Firth’s character die. I suppose they can implausibly bring him back for a sequel, though - the whole movie was a 'way out-there spy fantasy. > [@Quartz](#): > > Didn’t you know? Brits are IN as villains. Quite: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyrsEHL0DvU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyrsEHL0DvU) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kingsman-the-secret-service-74-on-rt/716274.md?page=1)