# Kirk "Bananas" Cameron does it again

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-bananas-cameron-does-it-again/704717
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [November 15, 2014, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-bananas-cameron-does-it-again/704717 "2014-11-15T19:01:33Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2014, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-bananas-cameron-does-it-again/704717/21 "2014-11-16T04:42:37Z")

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You know, Jesus was super pissed his birthday fell on Christmas.

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### Author: ![njtt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecd19e/32.png) [@njtt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/njtt)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2014, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-bananas-cameron-does-it-again/704717/22 "2014-11-16T05:53:04Z")

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How far does he take this? What is the Christian significance of Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer? Are “Santa Baby,” “Jinglebell Rock,” and “Grandma Got Run Over by a Reindeer” actually full of religious meaning?

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### Author: ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2014, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-bananas-cameron-does-it-again/704717/23 "2014-11-16T06:08:31Z")

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> [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](#):
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> You know, Jesus was super pissed his birthday fell on Christmas.

“Frankincense? Myrrh? What the hell, wise men? At least with the gold I can buy the new _Assassin’s Creed_. Boy, having your birthday on Christmas _sucks._”

Still, it’s better than what he got for Easter…

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### Author: ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2014, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-bananas-cameron-does-it-again/704717/24 "2014-11-16T06:09:48Z")

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> [@Jim\_s\_Son](#):
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> Bravo for Kirk Cameron! Nice to see someone stand up for decency and intelligence. As opposed to the atheistic fascists at the Colorado Springs high school who don’t want Christian teenagers meeting in free time to pray and sing hymns. Or the lesbian mayor in Houston who tried to subpoena pastors sermons. Because the First amendment doesn’t apply to anyone who thinks differently.

Bull. Shit.

The high school you’re talking about banned the club from meeting during school hours because they have a policy that clubs must meet before or after school. It applies to everybody, not just religious kids.  
Linky: [Colorado Senior Sues High School for Prohibiting Student-led Prayer, Hymn Singing | U.S.](http://www.christianpost.com/news/colorado-senior-sues-high-school-for-prohibiting-student-led-prayer-hymn-singing-129540/)

As for Houston, the sermons were subpoenaed to determine if the pastors followed the correct procedure when gathering signatures for a petition to repeal an anti-discrimination law. The first amendment has nothing to do with it.  
Linky: [http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/houston.asp](http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/houston.asp)

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### Author: ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2014, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-bananas-cameron-does-it-again/704717/25 "2014-11-16T14:43:49Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> “Frankincense? Myrrh? What the hell, wise men? At least with the gold I can buy the new _Assassin’s Creed_. Boy, having your birthday on Christmas _sucks._”

Is [this](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMalwzjJ3vY) YOU? 😃

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### Author: ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2014, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-bananas-cameron-does-it-again/704717/26 "2014-11-16T15:51:25Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> Christian White?
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> Please tell me that’s a joke.

More of a dream, I think.

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### Author: ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2014, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-bananas-cameron-does-it-again/704717/27 "2014-11-17T16:53:54Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> This movie started on Friday, but not near me. I’d be willing to pay for the cost of a matinee seat if someone would want to give it a shot.

It’s playing here (of course); I saw it on the marquee when I went to see _Interstellar_ last night. But you’ve going to have to make a hell of a better offer than that if you want me to sit through it. And some kind of disguise in case someone recognizes me going in.

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### Author: ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2014, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-bananas-cameron-does-it-again/704717/28 "2014-11-17T18:02:29Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> Bull. Shit.
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> The high school you’re talking about banned the club from meeting during school hours because they have a policy that clubs must meet before or after school. It applies to everybody, not just religious kids.
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> Linky: [Colorado Senior Sues High School for Prohibiting Student-led Prayer, Hymn Singing | U.S.](http://www.christianpost.com/news/colorado-senior-sues-high-school-for-prohibiting-student-led-prayer-hymn-singing-129540/)
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> As for Houston, the sermons were subpoenaed to determine if the pastors followed the correct procedure when gathering signatures for a petition to repeal an anti-discrimination law. The first amendment has nothing to do with it.
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> Linky: [http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/houston.asp](http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/houston.asp)

Heh. Don’t let your liberal “facts” get in the way of a good Moral Majority outrage. It’s good for one’s persecution complex, dontcha know?

And Kirk’s just upset that he hasn’t been called upon to save Easter yet. Just think of what he’ll do with a bunny, some dye and a little bit of grass.

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### Author: ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2014, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-bananas-cameron-does-it-again/704717/29 "2014-11-17T18:22:42Z")

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> [@Jim\_s\_Son](#):
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> Bravo for Kirk Cameron! Nice to see someone stand up for decency and intelligence.

Exactly.

After all, he’s only saying what we’re _all_ thinking but are too scared to say out loud.

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### Author: ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2014, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-bananas-cameron-does-it-again/704717/30 "2014-11-17T18:26:49Z")

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Glazed ham was obviously provided by God to celebrate Christmas, because it fits perfectly into the human hand.

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### Author: ![CGav8r](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/34f0e0/32.png) [@CGav8r](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CGav8r)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2014, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-bananas-cameron-does-it-again/704717/31 "2014-11-17T19:05:15Z")

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> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#):
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> Glazed ham was obviously provided by God to celebrate Christmas, because it fits perfectly into the human hand.

The empty tin from a canned ham can also be used as a grenade in the annual “War on Christmas” (filled full of flaming egg nog).  
As foretold in the Gospels.

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### Author: ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2014, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-bananas-cameron-does-it-again/704717/32 "2014-11-17T19:14:35Z")

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The spiral cut of the glazed ham represents the circle of life, while the individual slice represents the flatness of the Earth.

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### Author: ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2014, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-bananas-cameron-does-it-again/704717/33 "2014-11-17T19:21:37Z")

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> [@CGav8r](#):
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> The empty tin from a canned ham can also be used as a grenade in the annual “War on Christmas” (filled full of flaming egg nog).  
> As foretold in the Gospels.

Exception: Thou shall not defileth the eggeth nog.

That’s why we haveth fruitcake.

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### Author: ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2014, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-bananas-cameron-does-it-again/704717/34 "2014-11-17T19:23:28Z")

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> [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](#):
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> Exception: Thou shall not defileth the eggeth nog.
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> That’s why we haveth fruitcake.

I think this movie has more than enough fruitcake, thank you very much.

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### Author: ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2014, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-bananas-cameron-does-it-again/704717/35 "2014-11-17T19:28:07Z")

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Having read the reviews and this thread, I want to see it now. I’m a conservative Christian, but this sounds like absolute foolishness and stupidity. No surprise, but we really will need a Rifftrax of this one.

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### Author: ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2014, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-bananas-cameron-does-it-again/704717/36 "2014-11-17T19:28:29Z")

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Am I understanding this right? Is this movie trying to deny that Christianity co-opted the winter solstice imagery and traditions from non-Christian cultures? And that he is justifying this contention by co-opting the modern commercial/ secular holiday traditions?

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### Author: ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2014, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-bananas-cameron-does-it-again/704717/37 "2014-11-17T19:32:07Z")

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> [@faithfool](#):
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> Heh. Don’t let your liberal “facts” get in the way of a good Moral Majority outrage. It’s good for one’s persecution complex, dontcha know?
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> And Kirk’s just upset that he hasn’t been called upon to save Easter yet. Just think of what he’ll do with a bunny, some dye and a little bit of grass.

Sounds like he already had a little bit of grass :eek: . Who said that?

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### Author: ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2014, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-bananas-cameron-does-it-again/704717/38 "2014-11-17T19:53:14Z")

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> [@DrFidelius](#):
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> Am I understanding this right? Is this movie trying to deny that Christianity co-opted the winter solstice imagery and traditions from non-Christian cultures? And that he is justifying this contention by co-opting the modern commercial/ secular holiday traditions?

Yup.

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### Author: ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2014, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-bananas-cameron-does-it-again/704717/39 "2014-11-17T20:12:44Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Quoth **woodstockbirdybird** :
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> This has got to be the first time in the history of the multiverse these two sentences have been uttered in this sequence. Who says there’s nothing new under the sun?

That would be Qoheleth, I believe.

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### Author: ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2014, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-bananas-cameron-does-it-again/704717/40 "2014-11-17T20:19:43Z")

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I believe that Kirk Cameron is a deep-cover atheist, whose mission is to make Fundamentalist Christians look ever more ridiculous in order to drive moderate people to distance themselves from their faith.

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