# Kirk Cameron - Anti-Evolutionary Biologist **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 27, 2005, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167 "2005-10-27T16:08:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DanBlather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@DanBlather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DanBlather)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2005, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/1 "2005-10-27T16:08:16Z")
Randomly flipping through channels last night I came across an anti-evolution screed hosted by Kirk Cameron. I learned all kinds of stuff such as that Darwin was a racist and believing in evolution makes you one too. They also tried to book an airline flight for an orangutan and showed that since the airlines wouldn’t let apes ride in the cabin that they are not the same as humans. The best part however, was when they brought an orangutan to lunch and it behaved rather badly (much like my nephew did when he was three). The conclusion was that this showed that man did not evolve from apes and that humans and apes are different **SPECIES** altogether. WTF? Kirk: please go home, stay in your closet, and shut the fuck up! ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2005, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/2 "2005-10-27T16:14:02Z")
Has Kirk Cameron mattered at all since the 80’s? ---
**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2005, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/3 "2005-10-27T16:15:52Z")
Where did Professor Cameron earn his PhD? ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2005, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/4 "2005-10-27T16:16:13Z")
[Here’s](http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5479410612081345878) Kirk discussing Pepsi, bananas, Darwin, and other marvels of the universe. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2005, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/5 "2005-10-27T16:17:24Z")
I take it you haven’t seen his screed on why bananas prove that goddidit. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2005, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/6 "2005-10-27T16:19:07Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > [Here’s](http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5479410612081345878) Kirk discussing Pepsi, bananas, Darwin, and other marvels of the universe. Oops. Simulpost. ---
**Author:** ![betenoir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/258eb7/32.png) [@betenoir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/betenoir)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2005, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/7 "2005-10-27T16:22:44Z")
> [@Lord Ashtar](#): > > Has Kirk Cameron mattered at all since the 80’s? Ah, well, in the 80’s he “mattered” as a cheesy but inconsequental actor. Now, there are a small, sad, but not insiginfigent % of the population who thinks he matters of issues of the origin of man and the nature of god. I miss the '80’s. ---
**Author:** ![August\_West](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/august_west/32/18069_2.png) [@August\_West](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/August_West)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2005, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/8 "2005-10-27T16:28:09Z")
Didn’t Kirk star in the film adaptation of the Left Behind books? Maybe the constant exposure to that dreck rotted his brain and left him incapable of rational thought? ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2005, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/9 "2005-10-27T16:41:12Z")
> [@Lord Ashtar](#): > > Has Kirk Cameron mattered at all since the 80’s? Wait, which one was he? Was he one that show with Valerie Harper? Or was he the one that became a porn star after “Mr. Belvedere” was cancelled? Or did he get arrested for beating up a midget? Man, I can’t keep all the failed teenage '80s actors straight; all I remember is Sean Penn playing a variety of coked-up losers and the endless arguments over which of [the Coreys](http://www.codypowell.com/goulash/archives/000291.html) was more annoying. Ya know, every time I think it would have been cool to be a celebrity, all I have to do is [look](http://members.tripod.com/~former_child_star/coleman_gary.html) [at](http://www.wilwheaton.net/) [them](http://www.doney.net/aroundaz/celebrity/bonaduce_danny.htm) [now](http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,12971,00.html) and I’m happy with anominity. I do sometimes find myself wondering what happened to [Jami Gertz](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000415/), though. Meanwhile, Cameron adds his expertise to the anti-evolution camp. He sure does them a credit, especially that business with the orangutan. :rolleyes: Stranger ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2005, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/10 "2005-10-27T16:44:21Z")
> [@Stranger On A Train](#): > > I do sometimes find myself wondering what happened to [Jami Gertz](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000415/), though. Check out a sitcom called _Still Standing_. Not sure what night or network it’s on, though. She stars as the wife of one of the _Full Monty_ guys… ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2005, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/11 "2005-10-27T16:49:09Z")
> [@DanBlather](#): > > The best part however, was when they brought an orangutan to lunch and it behaved rather badly (much like my nephew did when he was three). The conclusion was that this showed that man did not evolve from apes and that humans and apes are different **SPECIES** altogether. I recently visited the orangutan habitat at the Seattle Zoo. There were a couple of young females quietly observing the humans. One was interested in the fact that a visitor was sketching her and seemed to be posing. In the background was a larger, juvenile male who was lazing in a hammock being fussed over by his mother - just like a human mom who indulges her adult son and won’t consider kicking him out the door to find a job. This conclusively proves Darwin was right. Or whatever. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2005, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/12 "2005-10-27T16:51:05Z")
> [@NurseCarmen](#): > > Where did Professor Cameron earn his PhD? I, too, would like to know this. Who is this guy and why does he get to call himself a biologist (if he actually does call himself that)? ---
**Author:** ![kingpengvin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9dc877/32.png) [@kingpengvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingpengvin)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2005, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/13 "2005-10-27T16:55:41Z")
The sad thing is that the morons he caters to will fall to his inescapable logic… or lack thereof. One day science programs will be able to use completely entertaining simpleminded ways to demonstrate complicated truths. Until then the idiots will continue to over run the air waves with their moronic visions of the world. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2005, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/14 "2005-10-27T17:19:15Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > [Here’s](http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5479410612081345878) Kirk discussing Pepsi, bananas, Darwin, and other marvels of the universe. Well that was 28 minutes and 37 seconds I’ll never get back! :smack: But it was good to learn that atheists don’t exist and that I’m lacking in brainery. :eek: The fishing tips were good though! ---
**Author:** ![butter\_pie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aca169/32.png) [@butter\_pie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/butter_pie)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2005, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/15 "2005-10-27T17:19:41Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > [Here’s](http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5479410612081345878) Kirk discussing Pepsi, bananas, Darwin, and other marvels of the universe. This would be really funny if it was a joke. Someone please tell me it’s a joke. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Dante](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dante/32/9673_2.png) [@Dante](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dante)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2005, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/16 "2005-10-27T17:20:39Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > [Here’s](http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5479410612081345878) Kirk discussing Pepsi, bananas, Darwin, and other marvels of the universe. [Larry the Cable Guy] I don’t care who you are, that’s funny right there… [/LtCG] ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2005, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/17 "2005-10-27T17:21:22Z")
> [@August West](#): > > Didn’t Kirk star in the film adaptation of the Left Behind books? Maybe the constant exposure to that dreck rotted his brain and left him incapable of rational thought? From what I understand it happened way before that. While on the set of Silver Spoons, he was an insufferable jerk to cast and crew. At one point he had a very public row with his parents. Essentially, he was a spoiled brat who couldn’t handle success. Then one day he realized that he was all full of Satan, and changed his ways. To the extreme. He found the light, and spread it like so much dung among his fellow cast members. At least that’s what I remember of the story. I could be dead wrong. Is it my imagination, or do he and his partner look like gay porn stars? Not that there’s anything wrong with that. ---
**Author:** ![belladonna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9fc29f/32.png) [@belladonna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/belladonna)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2005, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/18 "2005-10-27T17:29:54Z")
It was Growing Pains, not Silver Spoons. Kirk’s still a tool though. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2005, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/19 "2005-10-27T17:30:26Z")
Too bad they didn’t lock him in with the chimp. Then he would have seen both the glories of evolution(i.e. bigger brain vs. superior muscle) AND whether his particular God exists. See, two questions solved! ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2005, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/20 "2005-10-27T17:31:57Z")
> [@belladonna](#): > > It was Growing Pains, not Silver Spoons. Like it matters. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167.md?page=2)