# Kirk Cameron - Anti-Evolutionary Biologist **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 27, 2005, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167 "2005-10-27T16:08:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![iamthewalrus\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/258eb7/32.png) [@iamthewalrus\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamthewalrus_3)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2005, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/21 "2005-10-27T17:45:20Z")
> [@DanBlather](#): > > They also tried to book an airline flight for an orangutan and showed that since the airlines wouldn’t let apes ride in the cabin that they are not the same as humans. This is awesome. I remember watching some creationist idiocy that tried to make the claim that abiogenesis couldn’t have occurred. After all, the packaged food industry _depends_ on life not spontaneously generating in, say, a jar of peanut butter. Sophistry, brought to you by Southwest\* and Jif: Choosy evolutionary biologists choose Jif. \*Actually, by the argument above, would that mean that fat people are each actually _two_ people? ---
**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2005, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/22 "2005-10-27T18:00:13Z")
There’s always a market for telling people what they already believe. Sometimes I think I should go into that business myself. Unfortunately, I’m not sure I could pull it off. And besides, the only place I hang out is here and you guys are all to smart and sophisitcated to fall for any of that. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2005, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/23 "2005-10-27T18:13:16Z")
Kirk’s just mad because the orangutan’s IQ is higher than his. I’d love to see what the Librarian would do to him, though. _ook_ ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2005, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/24 "2005-10-27T18:35:50Z")
The Librarian would try to unscrew his head…probably to see if there was anything inside it. Obviously not. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2005, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/25 "2005-10-27T18:39:57Z")
> [@Trion](#): > > There’s always a market for telling people what they already believe. Sometimes I think I should go into that business myself. Unfortunately, I’m not sure I could pull it off. And besides, the only place I hang out is here and you guys are all to smart and sophisitcated to fall for any of that. \ ---
**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2005, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/26 "2005-10-27T19:11:25Z")
I can’t watch the video right now. Could someone summarize the argument that bananas prove God’s existence, please? ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2005, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/27 "2005-10-27T19:14:49Z")
> [@Homebrew](#): > > I can’t watch the video right now. Could someone summarize the argument that bananas prove God’s existence, please? I’m just going from memory here, but the gist is that they’re the perfect food. They come in their own wrappers, they’re the perfect size to fit in your hand, and they are even curved towards your mouth. How can something so perfect be an accident? It had to be designed by God. Yeah. Batshit insane. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2005, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/28 "2005-10-27T19:22:54Z")
> [@August West](#): > > Didn’t Kirk star in the film adaptation of the Left Behind books? Maybe the constant exposure to that dreck rotted his brain and left him incapable of rational thought? Other way around, I think. ---
**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2005, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/29 "2005-10-27T19:25:36Z")
But that doesn’t even make stupid sense. They’re only that way because of selective breeding and thousands of years of cultivation. ---
**Author:** ![susan\_foster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d9b06d/32.png) [@susan\_foster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan_foster)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2005, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/30 "2005-10-27T19:30:09Z")
> [@DanBlather](#): > > The best part however, was when they brought an orangutan to lunch and it behaved rather badly (much like my nephew did when he was three). I hate going to lunch with orangutans. They never put in enough for the tip. Susan ---
**Author:** ![kingpengvin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9dc877/32.png) [@kingpengvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingpengvin)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2005, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/31 "2005-10-27T19:33:24Z")
> [@susan\_foster](#): > > I hate going to lunch with orangutans. They never put in enough for the tip. > > Susan Not to mention the fact that the snotty racist (speciest?) bastards won’t even pick your nits if you’re human. **ook ook you’ll go ape over our savings** ---
**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2005, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/32 "2005-10-27T19:37:13Z")
We’ve laughed at Kirk’s religious wackiness on the SDMB before. [Here](http://www.wayofthemaster.com) is his official site, “The Way of the Master,” which features the “Are You a Good Person” quiz, written accounts of Kirk witnessing to heathens at airports and other various places, and (surprise!) an online store. Finding Jesus apparently isn’t as affordable as it used to be. ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2005, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/33 "2005-10-27T19:39:57Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > Kirk’s just mad because the orangutan’s IQ is higher than his. I’d love to see what the Librarian would do to him, though. “Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, especially simian ones. They are not all that subtle.” – _Lords and Ladies_ ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2005, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/34 "2005-10-27T19:48:41Z")
> [@Homebrew](#): > > But that doesn’t even make stupid sense. They’re only that way because of selective breeding and thousands of years of cultivation. GODDIDIT! ---
**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2005, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/35 "2005-10-27T19:51:50Z")
> [@Homebrew](#): > > But that doesn’t even make stupid sense. They’re only that way because of selective breeding and thousands of years of cultivation. It was even better than that: they were comparing it to a Pepsi can (i.e., like a soda can, a banana is easily opened and its contents readily available; thus, since one was created, the other must have been, too). My favorite argument–from the segment I watched–was how you could prove there’s a Creator because you can look around and see, you know, Creation. Kinda like how (using Kirk’s example) you know there’s a painter when you see a painting. Me, I’m convinced. [del]Thanks[/del] Amen, Growing Pains! ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2005, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/36 "2005-10-27T20:00:47Z")
> [@iamthewalrus(:3=](#): > > \*Actually, by the argument above, would that mean that fat people are each actually _two_ people? Suddenly, that extra dessert doesn’t seem like such a bad idea. I could be my own dependent. Twice! Woo! ---
**Author:** ![The\_Weird\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@The\_Weird\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Weird_One)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2005, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/37 "2005-10-27T20:44:43Z")
Personally, I believe in Heaven, and I believe that one of the highlights is watching God smack anti-evolutionists upside the head. Of course, if there _is_ a heaven, then I’m probably completely wrong, but I’ve decided to take a cue from Mr. Cameron and his ilk. I will believe what I want to believe, common sense be damned! ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2005, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/38 "2005-10-27T20:48:21Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > I’m just going from memory here, but the gist is that they’re the perfect food. They come in their own wrappers, they’re the perfect size to fit in your hand, and they are even curved towards your mouth. How can something so perfect be an accident? It had to be designed by God. Funny, they always curve away from my mouth. That just proves God knows I hate bananas! ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2005, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/39 "2005-10-27T20:50:49Z")
> [@Maus Magill](#): > > Funny, they always curve away from my mouth. Silly, you’re standing on the wrong side of the banana! ---
**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2005, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/40 "2005-10-27T20:52:23Z")
Kirk’s shit is bananas, B-A-N-A-N-A-S. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167.md?page=3)