# Kirk Cameron - Anti-Evolutionary Biologist **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 27, 2005, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167 "2005-10-27T16:08:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/61 "2005-10-28T02:33:24Z")
> [@Purd Werfect](#): > > Sure it’s easy to see him as an over-the-top fundamentalist, but please temper that judgement with the knowledge that he was often in proximity to that darkest of dark diabolical minion that is the eldritch soul known on this plane of existence as Alan Thicke. > > He no doubt went nuts in the name of the Lord as a last ditch attempt to save himself from such a hellish being. Actually, if you watched the E! True Hollywood Story on _Growing Pains_ (shut up!), Alan Thicke seriously disses Kirk. He basically told him when Kirk was complaining that the show was pornographic, that if GP was too blue for him, to go and get a job with Pat Robertson or whatever. This is the guy who was SUCH a good Christian that he got a coworker fired because she had posed for _Playboy_. He’s a complete tool. Oh, and don’t forget Lisa “Blair Warner” Whelchel from _Facts of Life_. She’s a fundy too. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/62 "2005-10-28T02:55:57Z")
He also got Leonardo DiCaprio fired (after Kirk was already a Holy Roller) for getting more fan mail than him. If Evolution exists, then why are there still Televangelists? (And the best star power the evangelicals can muster consists of Kirk Cameron, Gary Busey and Gavin McLeod- damn, Scientology at least has A-listers, these guys are like the hurricanes starting over with Alpha Listers.) None of this is to imply in any way I wouldn’t still do Kirk Cameron, incidentally. My favorite moment was the episode in which he explained (I forget exactly how) it was proof of God’s love and mercy that homosexuals go to hell. ---
**Author:** ![brickbacon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@brickbacon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brickbacon)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/63 "2005-10-28T03:13:50Z")
Anybody have more links for his videos? Especially the one with the chimp. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/64 "2005-10-28T03:18:01Z")
> [@brickbacon](#): > > Anybody have more links for his videos? Especially the one with the chimp. Thanks. Check the website someone linked on the first page. If you ever manage to catch it on TBN, it’s a real doozy. What I love about WOTM is when you have the little “Are you a Christian?” thing. If you mouse back and forth rapidly over the “yes” and “no” buttons, you can make Kirkles dance! ---
**Author:** ![BigDummy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee59a6/32.png) [@BigDummy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigDummy)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/65 "2005-10-28T03:30:34Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > This is the guy who was SUCH a good Christian that he got a coworker fired because she had posed for _Playboy_. He’s a complete tool. Plus, his whack-job of a girlfriend, who I believe got him started down this road, got her part expanded when they got rid of Julie McCullough. A pair of real sweethearts, them. ---
**Author:** ![Good\_Egg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/96bed5/32.png) [@Good\_Egg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Good_Egg)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/66 "2005-10-28T03:47:09Z")
> [@Anastasaeon](#): > > No friggin’ way, Kirk. You know that little black thing at the end of the banana, the thing at the bottom you get to after having eaten all that nice, regular banana? You know, the mushy bit at the bottom with the little black dealie in it? That’s the devil’s asshole. > > God set you up, and _good_. You are brilliant. Why are there no google ads for banana’s? banana banana banana! ---
**Author:** ![Padeye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@Padeye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Padeye)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/67 "2005-10-28T03:59:09Z")
John the tap dancing baptist on a rubber crutch. How to fuck up both faith and logic in one video. More than once I’ve been told I’m going to hell because I don’t believe the universe was created in 144 hours but this shit takes the cake. So a banana proves the existance of god becasue you can give it a hand job? I am a person of faith but my faith doesn’t rest on some half assed understanding of how things work. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/68 "2005-10-28T04:08:26Z")
> [@Good Egg](#): > > You are brilliant. Why are there no google ads for banana’s? > banana > banana > banana! Banana, banana, banana. Mushroom, mushroom. Banana, banana, banana . . . ---
**Author:** ![wolf\_meister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf_meister/32/15202_2.png) [@wolf\_meister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolf_meister)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/69 "2005-10-28T04:36:20Z")
**Anastasaeon** > [@](#): > > You know that little black thing at the end of the banana, the thing at the bottom you get to after having eaten all that nice, regular banana? You know, the mushy bit at the bottom with the little black dealie in it? **That’s the devil’s asshole.** At first glance, I thought your terminology was a reference to Kirk Cameron. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/70 "2005-10-28T04:49:02Z")
> [@betenoir](#): > > 😕 Wait. Isn’t that an argument for blow jobs? So **that’s** why I say Oh God! Got it. Google ad is for blown film. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/71 "2005-10-28T06:19:53Z")
> [@Stranger On A Train](#): > > Ya know, every time I think it would have been cool to be a celebrity, all I have to do is [look](http://members.tripod.com/~former_child_star/coleman_gary.html) [at](http://www.wilwheaton.net/) [them](http://www.doney.net/aroundaz/celebrity/bonaduce_danny.htm) [now](http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,12971,00.html) and I’m happy with anominity. Hey, if you actually READ the site, you’d see that there’s nothing wrong with Wil Wheaton’s life! Heck, he turned out to be cooler than I thought he would! ---
**Author:** ![DKW](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dkw/32/3118_2.png) [@DKW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DKW)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/72 "2005-10-28T06:33:52Z")
Kirk Cameron getting his anti-evolution mad on…Tom Cruise buying into a colossal scam…pretty much anything whatsoever involving Terrell Owens… Y’know what? I don’t freaking care anymore. Let them, every damn one of them, make fools of themselves. As long as I can think for my self, it don’t hurt me none. As long as they’re not making millions off of it or trying to get crazy legislation passed, it’s just more celebrity white noise. Pathetic, maybe a little annoying, but ultimately harmless. At least we have some idea where these people stand. What the hell do we know about Tiger Woods other than he likes making up words for racial mixtures? (Oh, and he has a thing for hot blondes…wow, BIG effin’ surprise. 😃 ) ---
**Author:** ![betenoir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/258eb7/32.png) [@betenoir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/betenoir)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/73 "2005-10-28T08:38:24Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > He also got Leonardo DiCaprio fired Now don’t go trying to make me like him! > [@](#): > > None of this is to imply in any way I wouldn’t still do Kirk Cameron, incidentally. My favorite moment was the episode in which he explained (I forget exactly how) it was proof of God’s love and mercy that homosexuals go to hell. Aren’t those two statements contradictory? Perhaps if we left you two alone in a room together he’d come out with a new definition of love and mercy? 🙂 (I say we try it.) ---
**Author:** ![Siege](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dbc845/32.png) [@Siege](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siege)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/74 "2005-10-28T09:43:54Z")
Hmmm. According to Jesus, the most important thing is to love God with all your heart, soul, and mind. “Mind” is specified. The second most important thing is to love your neighbor as yourself. How, exactly, are Mr. Cameron’s actions consistent with these Commandments? If he’s trying to save my soul from the torments of hell, I’m already a Christian. Either that’s already taken care of, or people like him are right, and I’m in a lot of trouble. I could have sworn Jesus decried blind, unthinking obedience, if only by implication in the way He taught. By the way, **Mangetout** , send me an e-mail sometime, please. CJ ---
**Author:** ![Waverly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/57b2e6/32.png) [@Waverly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waverly)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/75 "2005-10-28T10:01:51Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > They come in their own wrappers, they’re the perfect size to fit in your hand, and they are even curved towards your mouth. Are you sure he’s still talking about the banana here? :dubious: He might be experiencing rapture over god’s other perfect food… not that there is anything wrong with that. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 10:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/76 "2005-10-28T10:18:59Z")
The thing I don’t get is this: - The banana happens to fit the human hand, be easy to open, nutritious and pleasant to eat, this is apparently incontrovertible evidence of something or other. OK, lets just run with that for a moment… What can we therefore infer from the abundant and widespread existence of: -Things that are pleasant to eat or nutritious, but do not fit the human hand -Things that are pleasant to eat or nutritious, but are difficult to open (or indeed injurious to handle) -Things that are pleasant to eat, but are not nutritious (or indeed, may be tasty but deadly poisonous) -Things that are nutritious, but are not pleasant to eat ? ---
**Author:** ![betenoir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/258eb7/32.png) [@betenoir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/betenoir)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/77 "2005-10-28T10:59:53Z")
> [@Waverly](#): > > Are you sure he’s still talking about the banana here? :dubious: He might be experiencing rapture over god’s other perfect food… not that there is anything wrong with that. Ummm…sorry but you’ll have to get in line and wait till jayjay and I fight it out for dirtiest mind. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/78 "2005-10-28T13:01:43Z")
> [@Purd Werfect](#): > > Sure it’s easy to see him as an over-the-top fundamentalist, but please temper that judgement with the knowledge that he was often in proximity to that darkest of dark diabolical minion that is the eldritch soul known on this plane of existence as Alan Thicke. > > He no doubt went nuts in the name of the Lord as a last ditch attempt to save himself from such a hellish being. How dare you say such things about the man who wrote the theme to the Facts of Life? ---
**Author:** ![interface2x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@interface2x](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/interface2x)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/79 "2005-10-28T13:06:57Z")
Okay, quick hijack: This thread, for reasons unknown to me, really makes me want to see that “bananaphone” video. In case anyone else feels it, too, [here you go.](http://www.transbuddha.com/osaka/osakaphone.html) Now _that’s_ a perfect food. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2005, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167/80 "2005-10-28T13:18:21Z")
> [@Mangetout](#): > > Lately, I’ve been trying to debate a number of creationists on other boards (which I won’t name), Yeah, I stumbled on one of them a few weeks ago. I’ve been meaning to comment on what an excellent job you did arguing down the woos. Not that it did much good. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kirk-cameron-anti-evolutionary-biologist/328167.md?page=5)